People blame the media but we're the ghouls who lap it up.
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Innocent until proven guilty @Frank Castle. The alleged victim of the attack didn't want to press charges. There will be a tabloid feeding frenzy on this now but we'll probably never know the truth. I do wonder if the police may have been looking for a showcase prosecution which may not have been dealt with the same if she'd not been famous
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‘Louts’ have ‘escaped justice’ because ‘abused wives wouldn’t testify’.
But in this case you’re happy to dismiss it as ‘probably a moment of alcohol induced madness’ and a ‘caution would have sufficed’. Because the alleged perpetrator is a woman...
Double standards.
For the record, I’m not trivialising the point around men who’ve escaped justice. I think all domestic violence is abhorrent and whether you’re male or female, if you commit such acts then you should be prosecuted equally, regardless of what’s between your legs. Equality should mean equality.
And I agree with the points raised around virtue signalling, faux grief attitudes on social media. The same people blaming ‘the media’ are generally the same people who lap up shite like Love Island and celebrity lifestyle magazines. They endorse, even create a platform for these so called celebrities to be famous for being famous, disconnecting themselves and those within such ‘celebrity circles’ from reality. It’s toxic.
I’ve said the same thing with footballers when there’s an outcry over misbehaviours. ‘they’re a role model for children’. If you’re allowing someone you’ve never met to be a role model for your child, the problem lie’s elsewhere.
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Frank Castle CaptainModerator P.L. 20/21 Entrant Supporter
There'd be outrage. Claims that he could be intimidating or harassing her while they waited to go to trial. There has to be rules in place that don't allow any intimidation or abuse to continue.
What people seem to forget is that the boyfriend called 999 when Flack threw a lamp at his head and caused an injury which required hospital treatment. Those are facts, facts that meant the CPS felt the case was strong enough even without the boyfriends testimony.
It's sad that she felt that suicide was the only way out, clearly she wasn't very well, but to blame the CPS or media doesn't sit right with me. I feel she just seriously regretted what she had done, knew her career was now on a downward spiral and couldn't face a public trial. I'm sure the press stories didn't help, or the trolls on social media, but this is nothing new in the world of celebrity.WilsdenBantam, Faithful Bantam, meelin and 2 others like this. -
what would we have said if the Cps dropped all charges as soon as the victim wasn’t supporting it and the next time she hit him harder with something and killed him? Who would have been to blame then?
he wanted the charges dropping but it doesn’t work like that. Sometimes people need protecting and they don’t even know it. They are too scared or don’t want the case going through court due to fear or reputation etc.
also, you have some domestic abuse cases where the victim does retract but then a month or two later down the line they are fully on board with the case when the pressure has died down a little.
There is no such thing as a “show trial”Jayteebee, Faithful Bantam, Rogered Tart and 2 others like this. -
Clearly a tragic story. I think Frank has a point though. If it were a Male TV presenter who'd been accused of assaulting his girlfriend, I dont think the narrative would be as sympathetic.
I do think theres a much bigger question to be asked about shows like Love Island and what it does to the psychology of those involved, and who watch. Its toxic.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Andy10, alex, Idlebantam and 1 other person like this. -
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The very same grief tourists now desperately trying to shift blame to the likes of Dan Wooton at the Sun. The very people who give the likes of Wooton the reason to be.
What next? Wooton tops himself from the social media backlash? Cos they'd love that wouldn't they?WilsdenBantam, Faithful Bantam, Campbell's soup and 1 other person like this. -
Hulmebantam Squad PlayerP.L. 21/22 Entrant Supporter
I honestly hate the media ripping into people's lives. What a terrible society we have become.
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We love a good bitch. We should embrace it.
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I have never heard of this woman & am feeling like I did a few weeks back when a basketball player (who I'd never heard of) died, mystified.
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if they had not prosecuted against these new guidelines due to her sex and fame there would have been complaints, they can not win.How and Frank Castle like this. -
And it is because of all those louts that beat their partners and then were never prosecuted that the guidelines were changed so CPS now proceed like they did in this case if there is enough other evidence
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I can't help but think if the CPS hadn't taken the injunction to stop her seeing her boyfriend, she'd still be alive. Feels like that plus media intrusion has pushed her over the edge.
It smacks of a show trial. A colleague of mine has been unfortunate enough recently to be a victim of stalking and harassment. The criminal justice process has been a joke with very little duty of care for my friend. It's only really been her persistence which has resulted in a prosecution about 15 months later.
Yet it in this case they seem to have seem to have been gunning for her, when even the alleged victim wanted it dropping.Berkshire-bantam likes this. -
She made a mistake, She has paid a heavy price, Rest in Peace
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there would be no press ban on the case so the press are within their rights to be outside court. Her management team could and should have done more to protect her from that? Why is that also the CPS’s job?
I do believe more needs to be done for defendants in this country aswell as victims but in this case no matter what CPS did they wouldn’t have been able to win.
Next people will be saying the police shouldn’t have arrested her because she didn’t mean it and might have killed her selfFaithful Bantam likes this. -
Tragic.
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Frank Castle CaptainModerator P.L. 20/21 Entrant Supporter
Sad that she's taken her own life but don't forget that none of this would have happened had she not attacked her boyfriend and put herself in the spotlight. The impending court case was clearly too much for her.
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