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Calamity keepers

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by bantam316, Apr 23, 2022.

  1. bantam316

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    What is it with city and their calamity keepers, first ROD and now Bass, Bass seems to be getting more of a liability as games go on.

    who is our keeper coach ? Time to replace him
     
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    Did O'Donnell ever concede a goal like that?

    I think his bloopers were more imaginary than real.
     
  3. WilsdenBantam

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    Sometimes with O’Donnell I think be careful what you get for because you just might get it, he was average but there’s worse up there. Today was just embarrassing and Bass’ distribution gets worse by the week, who was it who said he was our best since Pickford my god…
     
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    I'm not expecting tons of footage of gaffes, let's put it that way.

    At one point, every shot on goal was seen as an unforced error by some on here...
     
  5. Allotment Bantam

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    To be honest I thought the Scunny keeper looked half decent. He didn't kick it into touch all the time, only once or twice(!) and made a couple of very decent saves. Only 1 viewing mind.
     
  6. hornseabantam

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    Bass, yet another player for us who flatters to deceive. Great 70 per cent of the time, dumb num nut the rest, thus concedes stupid goals, penalties and now own goals. Can't see MH pushing any boat out to sign him.
     
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    2013 league cup final and playoff winners as a league 2 team ,Matt Duke and Jonny Mac .
    Both good goalkeepers. The 3 we have now are not a patch on either.
    Bass and Hornby have been second choice at the clubs they have been at and Odonnell is bang average .
     
  8. banbrotam

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    Other than Doyle, he is the best since Pickford. Yes, he is erratic at times, but the many good things he does outway the bad, particularly when you take into account his age. I'd expect Portsmouth to use him as their first choice keeper next season - particularly as their current one, the young Man City star, will be going to pastures new. Even recently, Cowley was speaking warmly about him.

    Our fans only seem to judge a keeper on their bad errors - but that's strange as the likes of Liverpool's Alisson, who's made some really howlers seems to be respected by most in football.

    I mean your 'distribution' comment is negatively OTT. It was only recently that he passed a ball out to the wing, which was arguably the best potential assist of the season. Of course when trying ambitious passing moves - some won't work out. Surely he should be congratulated, for trying to create. Or is hoof ball what's best?

    Bass is better than O'Donnell because the latters body language was terrible. This led to an even more nervous defence and noticeably more errors from them, when he was in goal.

    O'Donnell might be fine if he's got a defence that have played together all season and have experienced players - they can cope with his moaning (and remember, I used to back him - when everyone wanted rid two years ago!!). But we ended up with a very fragile defence consisting of a CB who isn't really one, a green LB and a new RB - that would have been a nightmare if Richard 'it's never my fault' O'Donnell was the keeper.

    It would be great if we can find a better one. I'm not too convinced we can. I think if you ask every L2 team - their original keeper will have had some flaky moments or has been dropped.
     
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    Criticising Bass for his poor distribution is OTT, but criticising ROD for his body language that somehow directly leads to goals conceded is fair game?

    Come on, BanBrotam.
     
  10. banbrotam

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    It eventually led to a defence that was nervousness personified.

    Managers tend to give players who play for the benefit of the team, the benefit over others. This season O'Donnell gave the impression that it was he who mattered.

    But, it was another error of Adams not to have prioritised the keeper situation at the start of the season.
     
  11. WilsdenBantam

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    What a load of nonsense, and you criticise me for being ott negative I suggest you look in the mirror but you’re just another poster stuck in your ways. Because Bass had a few decent early games and you think R O’D is garbage you over estimate Bass, not I won’t congratulate someone for making regular errors I’m not you who’s happy to plod along.

    As for Bass being Pompeys number one, I doubt it but if he is good luck to them but they can do better as can we.
     
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  12. Faithful Bantam

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    The bottom line is, we need a better keeper than any we've had for 5 or 6 years next season. None of ROD, Hornby or Bass are good enough
     
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    To be fair, Parkinson openly stated he preferred to prioritise other positions, and I don't think O'Donnell's performances were a big deal.

    If you attack well and defend well I think you can go up with a keeper like Matt Duke in goal, and I assume nobody will bother to pretend Duke is better than ROD or Bass.
     
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    I'd say Duke was definitely better than RO'D. Not sure about Bass yet.
    Johnny Mac was better than all three.
     
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    Duke was one of the weakest keepers imo, and it showed that he'd only played a handful of games in his entire career prior to joining us.

    Having said that, he performed above and beyond in a few cup games, and those cup games are probably our fondest memories these past 20 years, so I'm not knocking him.

    But he definitely isn't better than ROD. In fact, he wasn't even close.
     
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    It is a funny one with keepers, for instance I thought Ben Williams was terrible but holds the record for number of clean sheets in a season but it felt like he hardly faced a shot. Imo one of Parkinson’s biggest mistakes here was not trying to hang on to Jonny Mac, although it allowed Pickford to come in he was our keeper and could have become a club legend and was better than any permanent keeper we’ve had for many years. We need better imo next season than all 3 we’ve had this season, but there isn’t a keeper this club has had that is the reason this club is in the position it is in although if you read some of the comments on R O’D you’d think we’d be in the championship if not for him…
     
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    I agree with the post, it's just a shame that for all the criticism people have ROD he is still better than the two replacements.

    Fingers crossed though that we properly address the situation in the summer.
     
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    Duke saved a few penalties and had a few very decent games in the cup. Other than that he was largely not very good.
     
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    O'Donnells game time at various clubs suggests he is a better keeper than Hornby and Bass but in my opinion there is nothing between any of them. We've had some decent keepers over the years but over the last 20 years or so the only one I can say truly stood out as decent was Jordan Pickford. The rest were all much of a muchness.
     
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    Jonny Mac wanted to stay he told me that even though he was out of contract he still trained down at Rawdon Meadows, he wanted to stay but the offer from the club was not good enough, he thought they would relent and offer him a better deal, we didn't and Jonny move on to better things.
     
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