Brexit

I don't see why. You have three options - deal, no deal or revoke. Everyone gets two votes. The losing option drops out then second preferences are added in to decide between the two remaining options. It's perfectly logical democratic and easy to understand and favours no particular option over the others.
It would give a clear outcome that everyone could accept as being truly the will of the people, as opposed to the vague, hypothetical, simplistic choice in the first referendum. That bore no relation to real world complications, because it didn't define what 'Leave' meant and it's what has caused the mess we're in now.

 

I think that’s the most likely sequence of events. Unless I’m missing something, or something else extraordinary happens. extension up to 31st Jan and a GE called potentially the following day for the end of November/start of December.

Only issue then is what happens if the formation of a government becomes impossible and we need another GE...Feels probably less chance of that happening than it will, but the days after a GE could be extremely interesting.

 

Correct at the moment there could and should only be two box's to tick, that would be vote for Boris's new deal if he gets one or leave without a deal, people say we did not know what we voted for, well we would by the time of another referendum vote so as I say two opinions.

 

I think that is easily circumvented. Three options : no deal, deal or remain.

Any vote for no deal or deal constitutes a vote to leave. That gets a majority in combination we leave, on the basis which is most popular from the two. If remain is in majority we don't.

 

Sorry, I would have to declare beforehand that I don't understand and I am too 'thick' to work out such a complicated choice, struggled with leave and remain last time...!!

 

Ah yeah, you’re right hadn’t thought of using transferable votes. In that case it’s definitely possible and I can’t think the EC would have too much issue with it.

Would love to see it, but difficult to see how it would ever come to fruition. It’d just become an almighty proxy battle.

 

It's not about whether we knew the effect on our economy.
The point is that 'Leave' on the ballot paper was undefined. Whatever you say about the promises made by Cameron etc, the fact is that the Leave vote encompassed every shade of Brexit from Norway+ to No Deal. That is not democracy. We know from recent polling that only about 70% of those voting leave would support no deal. No one was suggesting No Deal at the time - in fact they were poo pooing the very idea. So to claim that the referendum gives a mandate for No Deal is fantasy, because they'd have lost if they'd campaigned for it.
A second referendum with three options and a two stage, two vote process is a perfectly reasonable and democratic way to break the deadlock. Everyone would know what they were voting for and the result, whichever way it went, would have legitimacy.
Having said that, I think a general election is more likely.

 

Your problem. Most other people would cope with it just fine.

 

Thanks, perhaps you could vote on my behalf...? much obliged...

 

Exactly. It's bloody obvious that the referendum was not a vote for No Deal, but it's now being claimed by the minority of the electorate who want Brexit at any cost that it was.
And they wonder why we can't just accept the result. Because it was blatantly undemocratic, that's why. And that's before you even mention the election expenses breaches and the illegal online targeted propaganda campaign masterminded by Cambridge Analytica.

 

Which ever way we left was down to the MP's in Parliament that's a fact, they have made this chaos because in most cases they wanted to still have ties with Europe where as the referendum was plain and simple in or out, they had plenty of time to get their interpretation of leave voted through Parliament.
We know the reason why simply because the majority of MP's did not want to leave full stop, and it seems they are prepared to do what ever it takes to make sure exiting the EU is not happening.
The Lib/Dems have stated they would not accept any result apart from remain there's democracy for you from a party who actually have Democrat in their parties name, when Labour come of the fence and tell the electorate exactly what their position is on the referendum vote leaving the Tories and Brexit the only parties saying they will leave.
The one thing we do agree on is a General Election is the more likeliest.

 

I say we let 31 Oct go ..on grounds of "whinging whinning Remoaners" let them have their day ???. Set next one 31 Jan. General Election early December ...wipe them all out !

 

I disagree with the notion that ppl did not realise what was going to happen if voted for leave. We had every man and his dog telling us that the sky would fall in if we did. Plus we didn’t have it explained to us what deal we currently had with the E.U. I noticed Corbyn has started suggesting that as part of the Remain option we have reform of the E.U.!

 

There's a liar if you want one, we have NO chance of influencing or reforming the EU especially as we had the gall to try and escape....
I suggest those that voted remain didn't know what the result of doing so would mean short, medium or long term would be...

 

You can say what you like mate, whether you have the evidence or not knock yourself out

 

How about we do what should have been done years ago ? Basically everwhere North of the M25 and West is Leave territory. Mostly South & East Remoan. The North & West splits from Europe ..this is Northumbria. The South & East Remoans in Europe and subservient to Brussels. Corbin & Swinestone run that and Boris and Nigel run Northumbria forming joian Atlantic trade bloc with the US. Hard borders to Scotland and to the South & West. Leave em all too it and we get on with our lives. Theyve pretty much trodden all over our Majesty the Queen and any semblance democracy. So no matter we break the Union.. We are completely different people !

 

If we do have another vote and leave loses i’m presuming its best of three. Just in the reasons of fairness i’m sure you’ll agree.

 

I agree, we should boycott any 2nd ref, let the traitors win then clean up with the decider under Sir Nige...