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Bradford is not an attractive investment nowadays, both financially and from an inhabitable perspective, which partially explains why our Sports teams are faltering.

What would you suggest explains the decline of Bradford from its prosperous years then, if it is not for excessive immigration?

 

@Feats Don't Fail Me Now - Great points well made!

I wasn't linking the two directly, more of an indirect link between the impact of excessive immigration on the prosperity of Bradford which in turn has a negative impact, in my opinion, on the potential success of our Sports teams.

 

And in general I believe 1 and 2 can be connected which can have a effect on 3.

The issue is that some other cities with large immigrant populations still have successful sports teams.

 

Agreed, Hulme. It’s the same in most Northern towns. Barnsley and Scunthorpe, 2 towns I have close ties with, suffer just the same as Bradford does in the post industrial boom. But Bradford’s problem is down to excessive multiculturalism, apparently.

 

Well, let's look at the seismic shifts in the global economy, the decline of the city's industrial base, economic policy, the failure of successive Government's to adequately address the issue of the industrial heartlands (it is not just Bradford that has suffered - take a peek at somewhere like Scunthorpe which is largely immigrant free), the failure of successive Council's to address economic downturn..............I suggest that you look there first before pointing your finger at immigrants. Your point is based on racism and ignorance.

 

Don't just stop there. Why don't you explain how?

You've written two posts linking multiculturalism with the decline of our sport teams without giving any reasons.

 

bantamlad92, your arguments get weaker and weaker...........and more implicitly racist as you go on and on and on.............I walk through both city centres regularly. What is your point? Why don't you just say that there are more brown people in Bradford and have done with it? You appear to making a huge mental leap from the colour of the population's skin to the success or otherwise of the local football team. It is NOTHING to do with it. Have a walk around Leicester. I seem to recall that they are in the Premiership and I hear tell that they won it recently. Just man up and admit that you are a racist.

 

Bradford has had major issues with mass immigration and excessive multiculturalism. You’re deluding yourself if you think that’s not true.

It is not racist and ignorant as you suggest, it’s called the real world and real life. Apologies if that upsets you.

 

Any potential investor would be investing in Bradford City and not the City of Bradford. There are plenty of clubs that are situated in shithole's but still attract investment.

 

No erudite response about Leicester then? Why am I not surprised? Goodbye eejit. Not discussing this with a racist moron any longer.

 

That’s utterly absurd and you’re starting to sound crazy. Nobody is mentioning anything about people’s skin colour being an issue apart from you.

Immigration is a good thing, whereas excessive multiculturalism doesn’t necessarily work.

Not everybody is a fan of mass immigration you know, a recent referendum will tell you that.

 

Out of interest rhino what area do you live ?

 

Probably well out of Bradford in a majority White area.

 

I might not agree with you on every aspect but you may have some valid points regarding multiculturalism and the decline of of Bradford in general. Linking multiculturalism in with the decline of the football team makes you look like a complete tool though. You're yet to provide any substance to your argument and for some reason overlook shitholes like Fleetwood, Rotherham etc who have attracted investment as well as multicultural cities such as Leicester, Birmingham and Sheffield who are playing in the Championship or higher and have done for some time.

The link you're trying to make doesn't hold any value. It's a stupid point and you should move on.

 

In addition to the clubs mentioned above, Wolves, Peterborough and Newcastle also appear to be multicultural cities. All of them have either attracted investment, are successful or both
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/may/18/ethnic-population-england-wales

 

I've not said Bradford City and Bradford Bulls are sh*t directly as a result of excessive multiculturalism. You've made this conclusion.

You're picking up on buzzwords such as Multiculturalism and Immigration and forming your own conclusions. This tends to happen when the buzzwords surround a sensitive topic, which the topic of diversity is for many, so that's absolutely fine.

In my opinion, how affluent an area is plays a major factor when it comes to investing in a business or an organisation, or even a Football club. Bradford, in my opinion, is not as attractive as surrounding cities such as Leeds due to the state the City is in. You've admitted yourself that there could be a link between excessive multiculturalism and the decline of Bradford, so in theory it could be argued that it is a domino affect that has impacted our Sports teams - this is the point I am making.

I've no real interest in other 'sh*tholes', nor do I know much about them to make an informed opinion, which is why I've not drawn into that particular sub-debate.

 

Multiculturalism and immigration is good, and perfectly acceptable, to a reasonable level. When it becomes excessive, problems start to arise, and integration occurs less, which causes friction and so forth.

Places such as Peterborough (where I have family), and Wolverhampton which I frequent with work, have societies which are much more cohesive than Bradford and multiculturalism isn't as big an issue as it is in Bradford.

 

I've not jumped to any conclusions. You clearly make the link between the decline of our sport teams and multiculturalism. Are you now denying this?

I know what you're saying and I've given you countless examples of multiculiral cities/places that are not attractive that have attracted investment to completely disprove your theory. For some reason you keep overlooking this.

 

@Tolly856 - No I'm not denying anything, in the same post I've explained in further depth the links I've made. You seem to be suggesting I've made a direct link between 'w' and 'y', whereas I've suggested that 'w' is a result of 'x', which stems from 'y'.

Also, I've not created any 'theory' that applies to all cities.. I'm merely giving my informed opinion of Bradford.