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BRADFORD'S Bouncing Backwards!

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Broadsider, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. Broadsider

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    22 years ago: CITY were on route to the Premiership! The BULLS were Super League Champions! The DUKES were Elite League Speedway Champions! Odsal boasted a world class Speedway and Stocks track. There were even plans for an Odsal Superdome! BRADFORD was on the map & bouncing back! Today? Oh my god! BRADFORD SPORT TOTALLY ON IT'S ARSE!


    Successful representative Sporting Club's go hand in hand with an enterprising, thriving, dynamic & ultimately successful City. Attracting positive attention, renewing interest and increasing investment potential. Importantly also offering real hope, aspiration, belief, confidence, allegiance, unity, and excitement to it's citizenship.


    Bradford's effective fourth tier and non-existent sporting prowess now sits sadly alongside a very much fourth tier City image!


    Such a damned shame at all the great first class sporting identity Bradford has had and somehow managed to loose!
     
  2. Yorkieman

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    Alas. You are absolutely right.
     
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  3. Rogered Tart

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    Ah the Bradford Superdome. What a laugh that was.
     
  4. bantamlad92

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    Excessive multiculturalism within Bradford has driven the City down the sh*tpan, unfortunately, and it is no coincidence that our city's Sports teams are heading in the same route.

    Wealthy, educated people are leaving Bradford which is hitting the City in more ways than one.
     
  5. RonnieBrown

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    Lots of quality people, but far too few quality jobs.
    It's been like it for years. Out of 45 working years ..... I spent 5 years in further education, about 25 years working in other parts of the country - So only 15 working within the Bradford area.
     
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  6. bantamlad92

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    Yep, I can relate to that. Born and lived in Bradford all my life, then a better education was available out of Bradford and subsequently a better job opportunity outside of Bradford.

    The same job in Bradford pays thousands of pounds annually less than the same job in Leeds, which shows just how far behind our City is.
     
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  7. BantamRhino

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    I am not exactly sure where you are going with this argument, but it is already beginning to stink a little. :thumbdown::mad:
     
  8. BradfordBanter

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    Is it really? Or are you over PC and can't take someone telling their opinion?
     
  9. bantamlad92

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    What do you mean?
     
  10. BantamRhino

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    Pretty obvious isn't? I can bear listening to opinions, but will 'out' those that I don't agree with. The comment about 'excessive multiculturalism' has the distinct whiff of being, at least a tad, racist I suggest. I am sure that my friends Sajid and Ahmad would be less than impressed, just as I am. Nowt more, nowt less. Your post implies that City and The Bulls are sh*t, partially as a result of Bradford having a multicultural population. What utter bollox.
     
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  11. bantamlad92

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    Bradford is not an attractive investment nowadays, both financially and from an inhabitable perspective, which partially explains why our Sports teams are faltering.

    What would you suggest explains the decline of Bradford from its prosperous years then, if it is not for excessive immigration?
     
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  12. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    Though I don't agree completely I do understand your argument and can see why this is put forward from a business perspective but from a sports team view it just doesn't hold water.

    Bradfords professional sports teams have been serially poor for close to a century. Bradford City, BPA, Bradford Northern, Bradford Speedway have had brief periods in their histories of success and long periods of swimming around the bottom and none of this is due to 'excessive multiculturalism'. If that where the case then Leicester, Birmingham, Wolverhampton etc would be in a similar position. But generally they are not.

    Bradford has a history of underfunded, poorly supported, badly managed sports teams. Again nothing to do with 'multiculturalism'

    With regard to the city in general.

    Bradford has its problems. Some of these have been caused by immigration but not all. Poor management, decisions and investment by local, county and central government has also played its part,

    And no it's not racist to have this conversation or acknowledge that there are cause and affects.
     
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  13. Dennis

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    Thread now moved to General Chat since it has developed into a more wide reaching debate than just Bradford City.
     
  14. bantamlad92

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    @Feats Don't Fail Me Now@Feats Don't Fail Me Now - Great points well made!

    I wasn't linking the two directly, more of an indirect link between the impact of excessive immigration on the prosperity of Bradford which in turn has a negative impact, in my opinion, on the potential success of our Sports teams.
     
  15. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    And in general I believe 1 and 2 can be connected which can have a effect on 3.

    The issue is that some other cities with large immigrant populations still have successful sports teams.
     
  16. Hulmebantam

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    Bradford's wealth was founded on industries that no longer exist, or at least not on the scale they did.

    The big employers in the 1980s all left the City as first automation and then the Internet came along.

    Nothing has come along to replace this, hence the ongoing decline of the city. Relatively poor transport links and the rise of Leeds have prevented any sort of recovery.

    Add the levels of poverty within the city and you have a recipe for continued decline. I'd argue the failure to address poverty in the city is ultimately the biggest issue for the decline.

    From a footballing perspective, virtually all successful clubs in either the Premier League or Championship are bankrolled by foreign investment or have foreign owners with wealth derived outside the UK.
     
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  17. Nottsy

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    Agreed, Hulme. It’s the same in most Northern towns. Barnsley and Scunthorpe, 2 towns I have close ties with, suffer just the same as Bradford does in the post industrial boom. But Bradford’s problem is down to excessive multiculturalism, apparently.
     
  18. BantamRhino

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    Well, let's look at the seismic shifts in the global economy, the decline of the city's industrial base, economic policy, the failure of successive Government's to adequately address the issue of the industrial heartlands (it is not just Bradford that has suffered - take a peek at somewhere like Scunthorpe which is largely immigrant free), the failure of successive Council's to address economic downturn..............I suggest that you look there first before pointing your finger at immigrants. Your point is based on racism and ignorance.
     
  19. Tolly856

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    Don't just stop there. Why don't you explain how?

    You've written two posts linking multiculturalism with the decline of our sport teams without giving any reasons.
     
  20. bantamlad92

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    Walk through Bradford City centre for an hour.

    Then walk through Leeds City centre for an hour.

    You then have your answer as to which City is prospering and which is a more attractive investment.

    The club in the city that is prospering is much likelier to succeed, therefore proving to be a more attractive investment proposition.
     
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