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Match Thread Most liked posts in thread: Bradford City V Newport County Saturday 24/10/2020

  1. brisbanebantams

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    no. Sorry.
     
  2. Bronco

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    Yes Collins was a terrible appointment without doubt but the record books show Stuarts appointment after Parky left was nothing like a terrible appointment and more so working under Rahic, that's just not true.
    It seems to me you only read what suites your argument this is what I said with regards his third appointment, "Where have I said McCall was the right manager to take us forward, that was Julian/Rupps choice and I've given you the reason why IMO they made that appointment we still had a chance of a play off place" I've not said it was a great appointment but do believe there was reasons behind it, it might be Julian and McGod are buddies it seems that's what your implying above , why have I got to justify his appointment.
     
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    think for yourself bronco, I haven't asked for your thoughts on why Julian Rhodes employed him again or why you think he was undermined in his second spell. I'm asking for your personal opinion on why you think Stuart McCall, after what you've seen for the past 8 months, is the right man to take the club forward. it's not a difficult question, unless you don't know.
     
  4. Botswana Bantam

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    I don't understand this Teflon thing. Makes no sense really.
     
  5. Bronco

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    So you make a comment with regards being in block D suggesting I would laugh it off without an explanation.

    I believe @JonButterfield@JonButterfield has said it all, experienced pro's leaving to be replaced by kids loans and some players in the twilight of their careers plus others who don't look like they can step up, he had words with Vaughan hoping we could get a reaction from him as he did with Marshall, Vaughan was never going to stay he made that clear and if he made a mistake it was holding out thinking this guy would come around once he got back on the training field with his team mates, Vaughan was looking after Vaughan his careers suggests exactly that.
    I don't believe for one minute he could go out and replace Vaughan's goals within the player budget he was given, not forgetting the mutual agreement it would have cost the club getting rid, as a few pointed out the likes of Bolton/Mansfield did deals before the transfer cap was brought in when questioned if we would be doing the same Ryan told us we would be abiding by the salary cap, so no one actually knows what the player budget was after the Vaughan scenario etc.
    I agree he would have had more input into signing this closed season that he did under his previous employers second time around but not sure the budget he was given was what your suggesting.
     
  6. Bronco

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    I believe a play off place was still very much on at the time of his third appointment so I was not unhappy to have Stuart back, what more do you want me to say, first time he was inexperienced and walked which was the honorable thing to do, the second time I believe given the right backing he would have got us a play off place, I'm not sure what more you want me to say.

    Are you going to tell us what you heard in Block D if not why bring it up ?.
     
  7. brisbanebantams

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    again Bronco, you are going back to his first and second spell in charge and the decision made by others as to why he was brought back for a third.

    I want to know why you personally think that during the current spell (his third) not before, from what he has done since he walked back through the door in February 2020, he is the right man to take us forward. what have you seen either on the pitch or off it to think he is the right man?

    my answer re block D was to your question as to where I was when Hopkin and Collins were failing. I was sat in block D watching it.
     
  8. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    It may be a bite but.... Nothing sticks...even the crap just slides off :)
     
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  10. brisbanebantams

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    Jon, you seem like a sensible chap so I'll ask you the same question as I've asked others (and maybe I'll actually get an answer from you).. this isn't about whether he should be sacked or not but what have you personally seen since McCall walked back through the door at the start of February 2020 to give you the trust and confidence that he is the man to take us forward?

    please don't mention his time as a player or his 1st or 2nd spell in charge.
     
  11. Bronco

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    I have been critical of his tenure so far this season 2020/21 no Bradford City fan can be happy, but he's 7 games into a new season and no one can doubt most of the performances have been poor, he has to get his points over to the players and get them to believe in themselves and we have to improve or he will go the same way as any other manager who cant deliver.

    Here's a post where you told me to stop making excuses for him this was my reply I criticise him maybe not as OTT as others.

    https://bantamtalk.com/index.php?threads/the-humiliation-is-complete.4314/page-4#post-408173.

    In reply to your highlighted above I was asking with regards your input on the forum not your attendance at the ground, Bowyers final couple of months were also dire.
     
  12. brisbanebantams

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    great but you still haven't provided any examples of things you have seen that show why he can take us forward. Bowyer's last few months were dire, so have McCall's past 8.
     
  13. JonButterfield

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    I'm not sure how much emphasis has been placed on 'taking us forward', is my honest answer.

    As I've said, he's been asked to cut his cloth, the wage bill has been slashed, no two ways about it, and many of the weaker players here were signed by other managers - instead of going out and signing a slew of players, Stuart has had to settle for experienced utility players, and I imagine he's been 'encouraged' to blood the youngsters in a season of financial consolidation.

    The main thing he's been asked for, in my opinion, in terms of 'taking us forward' is putting us in a better, stronger position than the last couple of seasons. While the quality doesn't look to have either gone up or down, we have saved money while maintaining the standard.

    Now if City had come out and said promotion is a must this season, that would absolutely be the right question - but given that Stuart and the coaching staff seem to be the only one making that aim a demand, I don't see how the fanbase can be upset with McCall at this point in time.
     
  14. Bronco

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    You're very selective with your comments, you accuse me of not replying to your comments, when I do you completely ignore them, what don't you understand about " but he's 7 games into a new season and no one can doubt most of the performances have been poor" I was hoping he could have done similar to his second spell at the club, but I cant use that as an example, still not replied with regard why you wasn't as active on here during the dire days under Hopkin and Bowyer you twist it to imply I was asking if you attended games which I didn't as you well now, we'll leave it there your obliviously what you accused me of being in a reply to @Rogered Tart@Rogered Tart.
     
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