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Boycott Games - its the only way

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Faithful Bantam, Oct 25, 2018.

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  1. Faithful Bantam

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    Sorry for another 'protest thread'. But there are many ideas floating around and I think we need to cut through to the crux of the matter.

    Flyover's, posters, billboards, social media hashtags - they'd all be good sport. They may allow us to vent, and they may even sting Edin slightly; but not enough to drive change.

    Think about what's actually needed. Edin cares about 2 things:

    1) His football dream
    2) Making money

    He may now, finally, realise that his football dream won't happen. But that alone won't force a sale. So beating him up about it won't achieve anything. He can very easily just hideaway in Germany if the exposure becomes too much.

    Point 2 is where we need to make it hurt. As long as people are putting money in for him to take out, he'll go nowhere. We have no real assets of our own, the sell on clauses have largely dried up and none of our players would fetch anything in terms of fee's. So his revenue stream is entirely dependant on money through the gates, and the commercial revenue that the club can attract - which is also directly driven by how many people turn up to watch games.

    Boycotting games is the only way to force a change. He needs to see that the club won't be financially viable. Imagine the impact of gates that suddenly number a few hundred, or a couple of thousand fans. imagine the fear and panic it would spark for both the short and long term budget of the club. Imagine the response of sponsors - they'll walk away, or expect vastly reduced rates. And imagine the response of the dis-passionate Rupp. It'd take him all of 30 seconds to realise he's getting no more money, the only way the sales value of the club is heading is down, and he'll want shut straight away, getting the best price he can.

    The biggest barrier is the emotive attitude of fans. For many, the routine of going to games is so embedded in their lives, that the idea of not going to games is terrifying. Some may have a principled view of 'I've been going for X number of years, I won't let Rahic stop me now'. And for some, they may see it as deserting the club in its hour of need. I think we need to work together to confront these views and help people understand that the club needs our support now, more than ever. But for now, 'support' doesn't mean turning up. It means staying away. You're not deserting the club, you're temporarily sacrificing your own interests in favour of the clubs'. We have to realise that the quicker we effect change, the sooner we can start to heal.

    I see no other way of getting us to a point where we can start that healing process.
     
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  2. vladimir

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    Already doing it mate and it bloody hurts but I'm determined to carry on till these two clowns ride into the sunset
     
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    #2 vladimir, Oct 25, 2018
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    Now that is going to be very difficult to do. I will give it some thought. The other half is 100%.behind you on this, mainly because he can’t stand it anymore. He has been a supporter for 60 years, not once has he deliberately not turned up, he says he has never seen a City side in such a bad state.
     
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  4. Park bantam

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    The only thing hurt will be the budget.
     
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    #4 Park bantam, Oct 25, 2018
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  5. Faithful Bantam

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    Exactly.
     
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  6. Faithful Bantam

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    It’s an awful position for fans to be in, and frankly, damn Rahic and Rupp for forcing us to even have the debate.

    I think some fans will struggle to see beyond the emotion of it. If you look at it logically though, I see no more obvious way to drive them out.
     
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    #6 Faithful Bantam, Oct 25, 2018
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    Same :@/
     
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    I know everyone is different and may want to show there descent against these two idiots in other ways, but for me this is the only way we can bring them to there knees, and quite frankly I personally think it's the only language they know.
     
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    #8 vladimir, Oct 25, 2018
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    He's already got the vast majority of supporters cash for ST's this season and I can't see anyone buying a ticket who hasn't got a ST at the moment. So it makes no difference, financially at least. What matters is renewing or not next season.
     
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  10. Faithful Bantam

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    True. But that's even better in a way.

    It tells a very clear picture of what WILL happen, without creating as much short term pain around the finances as possible. So it gives them time to complete a sale BEFORE revenue takes a hit.

    It'll also give sponsors time to apply pressure.

    A boycott would be the indicator of sales next season, not just a short term message.
     
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  11. Jay

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    DO NOT BIY ST's

    DO NOT!!!
     
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    #11 Jay, Oct 25, 2018
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    I think Boycotting is a very viable option, and a good idea - it's not the ONLY way though.

    I might be wrong, but IMO, Edin is stubborn, and egotistical but he takes this very personally, he doesn't like been unpopular, and he certainly doesn't like to feel uncomfortable or not wanted.

    I think if we make it uncomfortable enough for him, and show him in no uncertain terms how we feel about him, I think he would look to sell up, and get out. for himself and his family.
     
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  13. Idlebantam

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    I would never boycott attending games. Why should I let 2 clowns stop me activeley supporting my team.

    Blackpool fans boycotting their games as not made a difference to persuading the owners to sell up

    I'm sure Rupp, and especially Rahic, are fully aware that the vast majority of fans want them out anyhow.
     
    #13 Idlebantam, Oct 25, 2018
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    I will boycott home games from now on. Do the club benefit financially if I travel away with City or do the home club take all the away gate receipts?
     
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    not sure i dont think so not league games
     
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    #15 Jay, Oct 25, 2018
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    It would be a real dilema for City ST holders next season , i said at the onset of this year i fear for the future of our club . If we lost a further 5 or even 6 k fans what would that do to the club ?, I am a lifelong fan and seen more bad times than good down the years . A large loss of revenue could see the club fold which would break mine and many other fans hearts , we need to shake loose Rupp and Rahics grip on the club , this is without damaging Bradford City beyond repair . So that is the catch 22 scenario for me , if / when we go down can anybody see us ever getting back to the level of 3 years ago ?, with a massive drop of income we couldn't even finance the ground let alone a viable playing budget , then the ST prices would rocket and the fan base will drop yet again . It's a very big ground with only 4 or 5 k in it .
     
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    It's not the only way but I agree it's one of a number of effective methods we should be using.
     
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    As I've said in another post, staying away can be interpreted in different ways. There's no way of knowing why someone isn't there. They could dislike the football, be on holiday or be boycotting that game. Going but being vocal and showing that you want rid of him sends a far stronger message at the moment. Protest NOW! Boycott next season if nothing has changed.
     
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    Excellent, I'm not going to Aldershot and that will be our last cup game this season, however beyond that I will be a 'pay on the day' (don't want Edin to take a booking fee) away fan following and supporting the lads the length and breadth of the country.
     
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  20. Idlebantam

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    If you want to hit them financially, and you are a season ticket holder, boycotting home games will not have an effect, until you decide not to renew
     
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