Bantamtalk's Flyover Protest via JustGiving

This is why the flyover is a Bantam Talk protest, and the Bill Board is a Cows Arse protest. The demand is visible on those forums. The casual/general support who frequent your work place do not have to agree, support or take part in these protests.

Are you suggesting we just let it all go and stay quiet because the general/casual support who frequent your work place don't fully support the action?

Terrible logic.

 

I'd go with that and the obvious word changes!

 

Never suggested such. I'm trying to just outline the feedback from others of getting them potentially on board.

I was actually trying to gain support for the protests.

 

i remember listening to simon jordan on talksport a few months ago discussing the ownership of arsenal and the seemingly takeover than was happening there. i can't quite remember the figures but i'm sure he said something along the lines of:

"if one major shareholder owns 80%+ (it may have been less) then they can force the sale of the other 20% and take complete 100% ownership of the club if they so wish."

so chaps, as the current ownership is a partnership and mr rahic isn't employed by mr rump and therefore he can't be sacked - you may not need someone to buy mr rahic's 20% share or indeed the whole club from both of the current owners. you may just need to convince mr rupp to sell his share and then due to regulations inplace they can force a takeover of the final 100% or even offer 20% fan ownership. this is why it may not be a good idea to get mr rupp's 'back-up' and annoy him by demanded he moves the the UK or leave the club.

as posted earlier, you may need to arrange a meeting with him on his own to convince him that the selling of his shares would be beneficial for him. remember, you catch more flies with honey.

 

No.

Flying over the ground with a protest banner is completely different to a helicopter landing in/out of the stadium.

If a tragic coach crash occurs, we cannot just stop using coaches to games for a while as its too soon.

As tragic as last night was, life must go on.

 

I don't see as fans we have much choice Dave, we either organise and do something or just accept the owners way of doing things.
Even then it may have a backs against the wall mentality from the owners, we know rich and powerful people dont like to be questioned with regards how they do things.

 

Afternoon Dave, you are aware I am fully behind the former option. I was trying to articulate ( poorly it would appear) that gaining support may be difficult. I wasn't asking for anybody to remain quiet and give up.

 

It's the opposite at my work, every fan wants them out, one hasn't even bothered picking up his ST, some didn't renew, others have stopped going. More will after Satdi's debacle, all support the fly over.

As an aside, these fans (to my knowledge) don't post on any forum but most of them view this one or look at Bradford City News every break.

 

I'm a little confused you say if the 80% share holder wants he can force the sale of the 20% share holder, sureley the same situation aplies with our owners, the majority share holder makes the decisions/has casting vote because he's the biggest share owner.

In this case Rupp has made a very poor decision buy allowing Rahic to get our club into the situation its in with the decisions he's made with our without Rupp's say so, if Rupp gave his backing he's just as guilty for the state of our club ?.

 

I sit in a nearly empty row , A block lower Kop , last season it was packed . Thats how i base my opinion . swathes of the ground are devoid of fans , imagine relegation and what it will look like next year .

 

It will be interesting what reaction we get, unless your on a forum like this there is little you can do to get your message one way or the other out to felow fans.
What do we represent possibly 8 % of Bradford City fans and even on here there are fellow posters who are against any form of protest.
Difficult times to be a City fan and I can't even say we've been through worse because of the way the owners have taken us, in the past they have been mostly bad business/financial decisions this situation is self inflicted because of the way these two wanted the club running, (Edin more than Stefan) but for allowing it Stefan has to take his share of the blame.

 

Instead of afly over how much is a blimp

 

Did you see the NW Corner? Ghost town.

I could have had 3 rows to myself.

 

yes. from my understanding of what simon jordan was saying and linking it to this situation rupp or whoever owns 80% could force the sale of the final 20%. as they are partners, rupp can not just sack rahic as some people are alluding too, he would need to buy him out - which seems unlikely.

therefore, if someone(s) can attain 80% ownership then they could do the same, as in force a sale. plus, who is going to want to buy rahic's 20% if it means not having control of the club? i can't imagine many businessmen going for that. that's why rupp is the key to all of this and why you need to keep him on your side.

you're more likely to get rupp to sell his 80% than you are rahic to sell his 20%, or indeed have rahic agree to the 100% sale of the club.

 

Will this plane just fly over the once? Or fly around in circles above the ground for a bit?

 

I think the Trump one cost £18k, I'd thought a permanent blimp would be good till I saw the cost!

 

Thats the question I'm asking partners or not why cant the guy with 80% of the share holding force the other share holder to sell.
I'm given to believe that was the case with our club being sold Julian and dad wanted out but Mark still wanted a stake in the club but Rahic & Ruin didn't want any other investers involvment so Mark had to go?.

 

I'm not a fan of the flyover protest but fully respect there are many posters on BT that are and that want this to go ahead. I also agree with you that a protest flyover is a completely different thing and that life must go on - but, I think Stafford raises a valid question and one that should be given further consideration for the following reason;
It is likely there will be a minutes silence held at every ground in the country before kick off next week. Rahic will jump on any chance he gets to turn the event round to make him look like the good guy and the fans look like insensitive bastards. If you still want the flyover to go ahead next week, could the timing be moved to say 3.30 instead of 3?