Bantamtalk's Flyover Protest via JustGiving

But you know what.. who the feck cares

There will be 70 odd people or Twats with big smiles on there faces for the first time in months and hopefully it gets a big cheer

Money cant buy that

 

There are some on here who believe the only thing to do is have an organised boycott of games; the TCA guys had an idea to have paid for billboard advertising; 70 people have used their own cash for the fly by; the SOCers appear to be trying to organise some kind of protest; many thousands other fans are voting with their feet and just not going to VP; others are using their purses and wallets and not buying merchandising etc. Some might be waiting until next season's STs go on sale and not renewing. There might well be other things happening which I'm not aware of

It's good imo that there are so many different messages on different fronts. Unless somebody really knows which of Rahic's buttons really do need to be pressed for maximum impact, we should be addressing the issue on many fronts. It may not be the most efficient way of addressing fans' concerns but something will come of it. And in all of the cases, a message is being sent now which will inevitably have longer term consequences if they are not resolved soon.

 

And as I said it gives those who donated a sense of doing something and if that's all people want then that's their choice to spend the money how they wish but the implication seemed to be there was something wrong with people who won't donate money just to give themselves that sense.

When its something that has failed elsewhere and has killed the atmosphere in the stadium (You will not get a big cheer, you will get a small cheer and lots of booing of those cheering. And you also will have a situation beforehand where everyone is just waiting for it to happen) then people are entitled to not want involved

 

Show me one example of it working? Oh wait you can't.

Just look at the response to this on twitter for example, while some support it more are against it. The minute something divides the fanbase so much you have lost. You need something that brings the majority together otherwise its easy to ignore.

As a United fan since the Glazers took over, there has been a lot of the 'protests' (and even before with Murdoch trying to buy us) be it protests, setting up a new club, 'fan' takeover attempts via the Red Knights, a few plane banners etc ect and all have failed massively in what they tried to achieve. The one thing that had the biggest impact is one of the simplest that didn't impact anything onfield either directly or indirectly and which had the most fan participation and that was the whole 'Green and Gold' campaign. It allowed the fans to express their views without impacting the players while it was a really visible act that was fairly cheap to setup and could be done long-term. It also didn't really achieve anything (although did force a year long process of designing a new strip to be cancelled as they were going to do a Green and Gold Newton Heath kit before that started and couldn't obviously have the club seeming to support getting the Glazers out)

 

We have a bantamtalk parteh and spend it wisely on beer and cheap women

 

It won't even have a slow rising change. A few days later the fact its happened will be forgotten and all you have achieved is divide fans further. You have all these 'little' things happening that are all independent of each other, most of which the only appeal to a minority of the fanbase and alienate the rest. And none of them has any real long-term plans, its 'do our small thing and then we are done' actions.

If all you really care about is being able to say 'Well I did something' then fine but if you are wanting to actually achieve something, even just progressing discussions its a half-baked idea amongst a sea of half-baked ideas all working against each other