Balanced budget at higher level

My point was those clubs can't get anywhere near 'midtable budgets' on their own because their turnover simplt isn't big enough. That was the top and bottom of my point.

 

That is exactly my point. When/if we get to the Championship folk need to be realistic.

'Decent' crowds because we sell tickets cheap
History has proven us a lower league club
We are a minnow.

 

Sorry. I thought your point was that there wasn't a chance that teams spend £15+ on wages just to stay mid table in the championship and you were showing the turnovers in reference to this.

 

I would assume it's your players wages that are the burden for Championship clubs.

 

My point is they are not self sufficient and run at losses and run up debts.

Do we want to fall down that slippery slope again chasing 'the dream'?

 

Wonder what Burton's budget was? I know they dropped out of the Champ but stayed up previous and took it to the last day this season.

 

If it's sustainable then I don't see the issue.

What's the alternative? We're barely even sustainable long term in this division.

We shouldn't fear investment and manageable debt. It makes no sense.

 

English football has become a rich man's playground, I use that term advisedly because I don't think there are any female owners.

This was always the case, but has become magnified over the past decade or so, as huge amounts of foreign money has been used to subsidise football clubs beyond their 'natural' levels of income.

Without someone, somewhere, pumping in significant amounts of cash into the club I doubt we can sustain Championship football, all other things being equal. Bit pessimistic perhaps, but realistic.

It isn't just the funding of players, it is the infrastructure around the football side of the club. SG made the point about the training facilities which I think was highly relevant. We are running a shoestring operation developing and preparing our players prior to matches. These things matter, and I think is one of the challenges with the development squad approach. We are hoping to develop a few diamonds, but in many cases they will be taking a significant step back from the support they received at their Premier League /Championship club.

It is one hell of a gap to bridge when we can only spend circa £3m on everything. Some clubs in the league above will happily pay that for a decent striking option from the bench.

 

Good post mate but why did you think Grayson's comments with regards the training facilities were highly relevant, I posted elsewhere that the facilities are very good for a league one team in comparison with a few years ago, but if the owners wanted to make improvements to make them even better our joint partners in that venture wouldn't have a problem with it, but to make the comment that because we did not own them IMO was a bit of a red herring on his part.

 

So our owners cannot/will not do this? Can someone tell me what is the point of getting there then?

 

Think they spent about £7.5m on wages and were the only Championship club to make a profit (I think) of about £1.3m.

 

I guess because every season we are going to be competing with teams coming down from the Championship with far better facilities than ours.

SG makes the point we can't develop ours. So, potentially, our training facilities will fall further behind.

In a previous role, I had access to top class sports science facilities. Saw Aguero there while he was rehabilitating from injury, Olympic athletes etc. That is what many clubs now have access to, and I believe that makes a significant difference.

 

What is the alternative though?

 

The 'big games' in league 1 are a rarity. Look at the teams in the Championship, almost every game will be an occasion. Plus the standard of football is much better than league 1 and it will be far more enjoyable to watch.

 

Of course extra money will be needed by most teams rising to the championship
However income streams rise as well
Extra money from tv deals
Increased prices
With near sell outs at every match
More sponsorship
More catering and shop sales
Of course it wouldn’t be easy but if it was handled right survival is possible
Otherwise what’s the point of any league one clubs tryi g

 

Park, honestly. Stop fighting it.

If we go up we won't be able to survive purely on the money we take in. No team can. No matter what increased revenue we get we will spend more.