£15 an hour to flip burgers

Corbyn is either mentally unstable, or the world's worst politician. I have hard core Labour friends who wont vote for their beloved party whilst this clown is in charge

 

Alternatively rather than close they could increase the price

 

increase minimum wage just increases everyone wages and costs. So yes they get £15 an hour but can still only buy the same amount of stuff

 

Agree with the points so far. Zero business sense which augers well for a McDonnell led government.....not..

But.............if we focused the £15ph just on the fast food industry then society as a whole would save money via reduced health care costs, fatsos would be slimmer and families happier.

 

People on low wages are paid out in tax/child tax credits to boost their wages which costs the taxpayer money. Why should business be subsidised like this?

There's always the same panic about the minimum wage and it's never even nearly as bad as the doom and gloom predictions.

 

They should introduce a national basic income for all. That way most benefits could be got rid of and wages would be earned on top if you work

 

You'd panic if you had a business and you were forced to pay unaffordable wages...socialism cannot work in an enterprise society...

 

In 1938 after the worst depression in US history FD Roosevelt introduced a minimum wage and maximum hours you can be forced to work, The minimum wage still exists today and has done the USA no harm economically,
He set out his philosophy that firms must pay workers enough income to buy the goods industry produces in his bill that took the USA from recession to prosperity, you can read it here if you wish, He truly was a great man
http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/odnirast.html

The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much it is whether we provide enough for those who have little. Franklin D. Roosevelt
Read more at https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/franklin-d-roosevelt-quotes

 

I’d like to see the Venn diagram of folk whinging about immigration depressing wages, and the folk whinging about the McDonald’s workers wanting a proper wage. It’ll be nigh on a fcking circle, I bet.

 

Aren't the Tories putting the minimum wage up to £10:50, I remember Boris at the dispatch box goading Corbyn saying the Tores were the party of working people.....Im not sure that's the case Tony ?.

 

That figure is incremental and will probably take about 5 years to come to fruition...

 

A living wage only becomes necessary and problematic in a society with significant inequality.

The most ridiculous aspect in the country is the cost of housing. People living in crappy accommodation, broadly funded by the taxpayer, giving huge profits to landlords and investment companies.

While I do feel at times that the more affluent could pay a bit more tax, I think it is hard to argue that someone earning £50k a year should pay more tax which ultimately is then funnelled into the pocket of an investment firm paying negligible tax in this country.

 

Those seething at the dumb shîte Corbyn says won't be half as outraged at the drivel Trump, Farage, Reece Mogg etc spout.

As long as person delivering the misguided opinion is on the same political end of the spectrum as you and then it's fine. Corbyn does it however...

"HE'S NOT FIT TO THE COUNTRY!!"

It's far too predictable.

 

Can't agree with that and it would never work, Finland tried it and it failed. How would you feel working your nuts off in a warehouse alongside a workmate who does FA, for the same wage? There are winners and losers, workers and shirkers, a national basic income would only benefit the latter, and at a detriment to society. Just like the minimum wage, it condemns "workers" to a future of no progression.

 

Not sure how your warehouse thing balances with a National basic income. Those that work would earn on top of the basic so there would be a difference in total income. So in your example both are employed so yes they could get the same income but that is the same as the current system, also how does it condemn workers to a future of no progression more so than the current system?

 

National basic income has been tried and failed. The only way I could see it as a positive, is if it were for people of a creative mindset. Let them create whilst not having to worry about having a roof & food, the small amount of successes could create a disproportionate amount of tax revenue.....maybe.

A guaranteed income, whether minimum wage or basic income, on the face of it appears good, but paradoxically, provides an opportunity for employers to make that a default rate. Regardless of potential, effort or ability.