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England Squad - Euro 2024

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Sergio Pinto III, Feb 18, 2024.

  1. Sergio Pinto III

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    Southgate never really a fan of Tomori, considered by a lot as a top Serie A defender. Hearing Loftus-Cheek is having a great season there as well.

    Add to that Smalling who has cemented himself as a top Serie A defender you have to ask does Southgate ever visit Italy on his rounds? Or does he just save his jet miles for Amsterdam?
     
  2. Jordan

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    I think both will end up in the England frame again down the line, but not in time for this one. I think the rumours are true and Ten Hag is done at United and Dan Ashworths first move will be to appoint Southgate and it gets announced before the Euros. Probably after the FA Cup final whether United are in it or not.

    Mount will get a chance again at United, not sure about Sancho. I reckon they'll want to ship one of him or Antony and try make it work with the other, but neither are getting in ahead of Garnacho and Rashford out wide.
     
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    I'd actually take Toney over Watkins. Not because one player is better than the other but I feel Toney offers more in his all round game and as daft as it sounds, it's another penalty taker should any game go that far.
     
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    Tomori is only just coming back from injury, he's had 3 or 4 month out from memory? I'd consider him but Serie A is so slower than PL these days. He was getting some stick earlier in the season too for his attitude I think it was? Remember reading a bit on him a few weeks ago around Euros squad outsiders and it was mentioned on that article.

    RLC is my outside bet, I know people are hyping up Barkley but Loftus-Cheek has been really impressive. Again, it's the pace of the play which might hinder. At Chelsea it was always his work rate that was questioned, might just fit in more to a slower league? But 11 G&As in 34 isn't anything to be ignore at all.
     
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    As long as Southgate departs England, I dont care where.

    Bring in Jose - a serial winner.
     
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    I think it's Eddie Howe and Tindall is going to be a viral sensation at the USA world cup in 2 years. And Jose joins Newcastle in the summer.

    Or, Graham Potter gets pulled out the shadows.
     
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    I wouldnt disagree on that. I would take Eddie over Potter mind. How on earth can we employ Potter off the back of a disastrous Chelsea sacking!

    I would have no issue in a German taking over the role either. Know of any Germans out of work this summer?
     
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    Edin Rahic. Football genius.
     
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    Would you take him back over Sparks?.............
     
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    I wouldn't put it past the FA, I mean, it's not like Southgate had a great CV before getting promoted. Tuchel? Not many other jobs he hasn't already had. Klopp said he doesn't want stress for a while...... so it wont be him.
     
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    In a breath.
     
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    Whats very clear is the English have one of the worst manager pool in world football. The fact our national league hasnt been won by an English man in over 30 years speaks volumes.

    If Man City are severely punished and Pep walks, then throw whatever money it takes to get him in charge.
     
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    English manager pool is another thing that is the victim of the PL success. Teams need that money, they need the PL like crazy, hence the amount of clubs running into financial situations just to survive these days. But English managers aren't sexy or glamourous in play or pulling power, and they kind of have a limit of anyone outside the top 6. Very rare an English manager is even linked to a top 6 job, let alone gets one.

    Like Potter, had that great run at Brighton and jumped far too early to Chelsea. Poison job under the new Yank who just wanted to play FM in real life, but his old sporting director was already at Chelsea and thought it would work. That error has cost him massively. Best hope for an English manager these days is a Newcastle, Villa, West Ham but even those clubs want to expand into Europe now and attract from aboard. Even Eddie Howe, no matter what he does at Newcastle, from day one theres always been the "it's his until we level up" kind of narrative, like at some point they will want a Jose to take them to that next level. English managers have a ceiling.

    I think Rob Edwards should have an outside shout. Maybe not this time around but if his career keeps building the time after maybe? Proved at FGR that he can play on the deck, they had the most possession in the EFL at the time. Had his poison run at Watford, then at Luton on a small budget knew he couldn't play on the deck after trying, worked with the big lads and said nope we'll play direct. He's a manager that can coach multiple ways, but has proven he can get players on his side and create a unity and make the best out of what's available.
     
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    Forgot the City punishment thing... I think they'll get nothing. Fairly certain on a recent Stick to Football they said a lot of the charges likely wont be looked into until next year but they also have a statue of limitations and they'll eventually just get the can kicked down the road enough so that it expires. The ones that stick, a fine and a small deduction is my guess, at worst.

    Not a chance it will be anything more severe unless the independent regulator comes in and wants to make an example. Then again, they might not be able to act on existing investigations? Who knows.
     
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    There is no statue of limitations under premier league rules unlike UEFA so City can't just drag it out like the did with UEFA who already found them guilty.

    The 115 charges are being investigated and charged together because they are actually all interconnected. What they would have been referring to is if they are found guilty of even a fraction of them it triggers a load of additional charges as it undermines their claims to have abided by FFP & PSR so that's multiple years of failing these which means more points deductions
     
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    Can't help but think Pep would be the worst choice we could make. Look at his struggles in the first season at City, despite them having years planning for him they screwed up recruitment and it wasn't the squad he needed to play his way even even when he had then everyday to drill them. With England he would be restricted to the pool of English players and gets limited time with them to get them to play as he wants. And it's not like Pep has a history to show he can change his style, his Barca team, his Bayern team and his city team all just minor revisions of the same setup
     
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    Yeah I went back and watched the clip after this, the uefa ones only had a time limit. I don't think they'll get much of a punishment if I'm honest.

    Although FFP & PSR is a joke in the PL and they'll likely just change the rules in the next year due to how many have been caught failing over the last 2 years.
     
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    Well, it won't be Johnstone to take that 3rd keeper spot. He's had to have elbow surgery and won't be back until next season.
     
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    Why do you think it's a joke? To me its working fairly well with most clubs actually reigning their spending in to more manageable levels and it still allows owners to throw money at the club in the form of infrastructure, infrastructure that unlike players can really set a club up for longer term stability. Certainly United scaled their spending back this summer, there were a couple of positions we needed but couldn't go after without selling players first

    And I'm not sure I would say that many are being caught. Everton have for a long time been taking the piss, they had already failed PSR but were allowed to get away with it due to COVID on the understanding the reign in and they didn't.

    Forest went crazy with signings, their financial guy told them that and he was ignored so they deserve it. Chelsea are likely to be the next to fail it, they will run out of youth players they can sell to get away with it (Although they look likely to get a point deduction as its now come out Abramovich was making illegal payments)
     
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    I just don't agree with PSR and clubs now having to sell academy players to be able to spend. It just seems alien to me that academy players are seen as free hits out the door, local lads who've probably been at their clubs 10/15 years. In the summer Villa will have to sell Ramsey just to keep their heads above water, it just seems wrong to me that a local talent gets to the point of being a prem first teamer and the immediate thought cant be build the team around them, it has to be sell to keep going if youre a club outside the elite. Chelsea will have to sell Gallagher and probably another to balance their sheets but their damage is already done I bet.

    I've never liked the FFP layout as it still means you'll always the same clubs being able to spend the top money. If you want to climb into that top 6, you probably have 1 season out of 3 where you can spend and the rest will be sales at best or restructured loans and you can't get things right in 1 window. Of course there was ways around it which clubs will try, and I'm not saying clubs should have free reign to spend spend spend, but I just don't see the ability to break into the top anymore with the difference in revenues and revenues being the deciding factor. Newcastle are the closest, again through state money, but it's money that can't be spent now for a few seasons.

    I'm not intelligent enough to know the ins and outs of revenues and the manipulations some clubs will do around it to make FFP fairer, but it just seems like the current setup of 4 or 5 being OK and the rest looking over their shoulders isn't going to last long. Don't know if you can say for example, Man City made let's say £200m in revenue this season, so the clubs can net spend up to £200m next season but need to show proof of funds? I dunno, just feels like it needs a better ruling for all.
     

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