Budget/Wages

For the record when we were discussing the situation with wages back in Oct/Nov and I did some research these are the figures I came across for wages (And expiry dates for contracts). Most are double or triple sourced but some of the lower ones are single sourced

Player. Wage p/w	Expiry
Eoin Doyle	£5000	30/06/2020
Sean Scannell	£5000	30/06/2020
David Ball	£3400	31/05/2019
Jack Payne	£3000	31/05/2019
Joe Riley	£3000	30/06/2020
Ryan McGowan	£2500	30/06/2019
Jake Reeves	£2500	30/06/2020
Nathaniel Knight-Percival	£2500	30/06/2019
Hope Akpan	£2500	30/06/2020
Anthony O'Connor	£2200	30/06/2021
Josh Wright	£2000	30/06/2020
Kelvin Mellor	£2000	30/06/2020
Alex Jones	£2000	30/06/2019
Richard O'Donnell	£2000	30/06/2020
Jim O'Brien	£1600	31/12/2018
George Miller	£1500	31/05/2019
Adam Chicksen	£1500	30/06/2019
Ben Wilson	£1200	30/06/2020
Lewis O'Brien	£1000	31/05/2019
Tyrell Robinson	£1000	30/06/2020
Kai Brünker	£800	30/06/2019
Connor Wood	£600	30/06/2021
Jordan Gibson	£600	30/06/2020
Danny Devine	£600	30/06/2019
Thomas Isherwood	£500	30/06/2020
Luca Colville	£450	30/06/2019
Sherwin Seedorf	£400	14/01/2019
Ellis Hudson	£350	30/06/2019
Cameron Hawkes	£300	30/06/2019
Callum Gunner	£300	30/06/2019
Reece Powell	£250	30/06/2019
George Sykes-Kenworthy	£250	30/06/2020
Tom Clare	£250	30/06/2019
Kielen Adams	£110	30/06/2019
Jake Maltby	£110	30/06/2019
	£53270

There is a quote from one of your ex board members that I cant find right now saying that turnover at the club ranges from £4.5mill a year to £7mill. At 60% of turnover that means your wage budget is between £52k a week and £80k. This year I would imagine with no cup run your turnover is on to be nearer £4.5mill than £7mill

The figures are obviously just ballpark and I believe they all lack bonuses (I'm not sure how bonuses figure into the caps) but it gives a rough idea of the possible savings

 

The problem with loans is they often don't work out. In many ways its better to loan them out to a European club where the leagues are less physical but as we see with Chelsea that basically just means all you are doing is buying youngsters to sell them on to continental clubs after they impress on loan. If you want a youngster to break though they need to go out in England but if they aren't ready that team isn't going to play them so they don't develop. If they aren't getting game time they are better off staying at the club with better training facilities.

Also with Riley he was starting to reach that point where a loan may be considered when LVG was at the club who was willing to give youngsters some game time which no doubt complicated matters

 

That would be closer to what I would have thought and include appearance/bonus money etc. Just remember that for Doyle and Scannell that equates to £260,000 a year.

 

If all that is correct and includes bonuses etc as you say, it suggests a playing budget of around £2.8mill. How does that square with statements that our current playing budget is the largest one since the PL days?

 

Well as no actual figures have been released by the club, and given the mysterious exit of a former owner, then who knows what has been spent and where the money has gone? Just because you have a budget doesn’t mean that you have to actually spend it. You can always spend the money on other things. If you have one person making the decisions, there would seem to be less accountability.
Saying something to appeal to people does not actually equate to tangible and quantifiable activity, especially if it is through an opaque system.
I think you or others have remarked that only City and one other League 1 club has not made public/published full accounts!
Frankly I am not in the know, but given comments about the average wages of footballers, which has been sourced on BT, then it would seem to fit.

 

You just have to look at any club who changes manager. Players who looked awful can suddenly look good while those that looked great now look awful. Every manager has a slightly different style and hence slightly different requirements from players and a quality not appreciated at one club can be desired at another and that player may be a key player at a new club.