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Matty Foulds to Harrogate on loan (with Poll)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Jordan, Jan 17, 2023.

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Marty Foulds to Harrogate

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  1. banbrotam

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    It has since Wright was moved when we went to diamond.

    Everyone keeps blaming midfield but they have been isolated as we have a LB who isn't naturally comfortable playing as a wing back - an essential role for this system. Ridehalgh or Bola will be far better suited, with the latter apparently comfortable at LWB.

    Add the fiesty Walker, instead of the weak minded Chapman and that middle area suddenly has more snap.
     
  2. banbrotam

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    Post of the season.

    At last someone who gets, this is what forward thinking clubs do.

    Foulds and Young get improved at other clubs, improving us for the future.
     
  3. SimonW

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    The problem is he has 15 games in League 1 and 2 in the Championship under his belt so it's hard to know precisely how good he is. Most of his first-team football actually comes in the Pizza Cup and with how little clubs care for this, especially in the group stages it's not hard to look good. Coupled with his injury record (And Citys record in recent years of of keeping players with a slight question mark over their fitness, fit is hardly the best) relying on him and a 32-year-old who hasn't played since the start of September and who since the end of last season seems to have had groin, Ankle and Calf injuries which when you are picking up those kinds of related issues is often a worry that there is a bigger issue that's going to keep causing the player to have a niggle
     
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  4. Bantam75

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    If we’re going down the diamond route for the rest of the season, then we need our full backs to be on point. if we were playing 4-4-2 or 4-3-3, Foulds would probably keep his spot. But with a diamond, the emphasis for creativity primarily lies on the full backs, Halliday has improved in that regard recently, Although I always get the feeling there is an error in him defensively, Foulds has been poor for a month or so an doesn’t suit the formation.
     
  5. Botswana Bantam

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    Here's some interesting data if correct. Good job we've got some analysis and data folks in the building...

     
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  6. Botswana Bantam

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    I tend to agree with you at the start here. Seems like a change Hughes just felt he needed to make.

    Ultimately, Foulds is a defender - have we lost games because of his errors? I'd say no.

    Can we say we haven't won games because he hasn't contributed? If you answer this 'yes' then go and tell the same to Chapman, Gilliead, Eisa, Oliver, Walker who combined have less assists than Foulds.

    If the new lad does well then great but if not then this will look like a bad decision.
     
  7. AngryGaz

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    Promotion next season ????? Mate the whole aim of this budget was to do it this season ......... you seriously think if we fail to do this season then the same numbers will turn up next season ????
    Thousands will go missing and that will have an impact on next seasons budget .......... we ain’t blind we can see the weak link in that side sod the full backs sod the wingers it’s that pathetic midfield who offer nothing :( that should have been addressed as soon as that window open ............. I just got a nasty feeling that this season is about to implode in a very bad way
     
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  8. DimitriPayet

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    Don't start fictional rumours
     
  9. AngryGaz

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    A full back with more assists than attacking players and folk think that area of the pitch is an issue :)
     
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    How will Foulds improve at Harrogate?

    If he was a kid looking for game time experience then yes, however, he has been playing regularly for us and surely would improve here if he is to improve at all. He has more likely hit his ceiling and Hughes thinks that too
     
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    MH hinted in latest article in the T&A that the diamond is here to stay and he wants more from his full backs going forward. Its fair to say Foulds would be making way for Bola due to different styles
     
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  12. Botswana Bantam

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    That's nice. Let's just let the forward players sail through the season with a free pass... No need for them to create chances as long as they look pretty playing with the ball...
     
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    midfielders that do little but bringing a full back in will change everything :( seriously if nothing is done to sort that midfield out during this window then I just give up with it
     
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    I can't see him bringing one in. Doesn't seem to be a problem to him. If it were then there would be someone here by now
     
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    It is a good point, but, take Critchlow out of the middle and we look poor. Platt is massively better alongside him.
     
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    Yet we get walked over week after week by teams with a better midfield. Gilliead, Sutton & Smallwood won't take us up. It's the league two equivalent of having Darren Morgan, Mick Duxbury & Tom Penfold in there.
     
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    and bringing Josh Wright in as sub to replace one of them :(
     
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  18. Jordan

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    Makes sense to me. In reading the article, I took it as Foulds either didn't back himself to compete or offer what Hughes wants from his full backs in the diamond, and saw the offer of continuing to play every minute (it looks like hes the only LB on harrogates books) and would rather play every minute, than sit in the stands. Dont blame him. We've got 2 LBs now, if need be Kelly and Critchlow are left sided defenders if all goes terribly wrong.

    As said before by someone, i also think Foulds is about at his ceiling. He turns 25 in 2 weeks, so he's at that point where he isn't a project anymore, he needs to be a packaged full back to offer something going forward and back as the full back role is now key for most sides.
     
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    Jeez, now you've done it. I won't sleep tonight thinking of that fist pumping airy fairy.
     
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    If we were doing this with talented youth players then i could see the reasoning, but we certainly ain't getting an improved Foulds back from Harrogate. And if Young gets a regular chance at Barrow i'd be asking my agent to look at making it permanent because its clear Hughes doesn't see either as a first team player. Not that there is anything wrong with that, football is a cut throat business and there is no room for sentiment.
     
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