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Betting on City

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rogered Tart, Jul 11, 2022.

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  1. Rogered Tart

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    Just looking at the first bookies, Paddy Power have us second favourites to go up. The amount of players brought in shows we aren't thinking anything else but promotion. We.woukdnt have brought the likes of Smallwood, Walker or Chapman in otherwise. Add to that other players from higher divisions like Halliday and Oliver and rated players in our division like Harratt and Odusina. Failure genuinely isn't an option this season.
     
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    Eh? Were second favourites in most bookies eyes. You ain't gonna get a team odds on in any division in the EFL. Infact there is only one side in the entire 92 that is odds on and that is unsurprisingly Man City. As for the length of contract, no one who has interest elsewhere would ever move to a club an a one year deal, Angol signed on a year because he knew that's all he'd get offered elsewhere. Look, the club ain't planning for a big turnover of players in the next two years, its why they've given out the contracts they have. At last we seem to have a plan that isn't just to survive to the end of the season.
     
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    That's how betting odds work in football, nobody ever ends up as a dead cert, never have.Theh mainly go on things like transfer activity, the manager at the club and his previous record, the clubs previous form and build a market off the back of it. I'd say most fans in league 2 have us down as a top three side due to the players brought in and our manager. If you gave 100 people a tenner and told them to stick it on who they fancied I'd say most would put it on either us or Stockport.
     
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    I think I see what @HUDDERSSBANTAM@HUDDERSSBANTAM is saying, if we're around 2-1 to get promoted, we're actually odds on to NOT get promoted.

    Relatively speaking, though, we're obviously one of the more fancied teams, so I also see your point!
     
    #4 JonButterfield, Jul 11, 2022
  5. Rogered Tart

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    Oh I understand his point. Mine being that it's how the market works, hence why Man City at the only odds on team in the whole league
     
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    I agree. We have a better chance than most.
    But we're still odds against!! We're unlikely to get promoted this season. We're very likely to not get promoted.

    We all hope to get promoted but the facts are we probably won't.

    I agree with many of your points. I'm not criticising the club at all or the signings.
     
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  7. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    Bookies know nothing. They are reactive. If you placed 1k on Salford to win the league without a ball being kicked they will change their odds.

    Working out div 2 and putting us up their currently will be based on our attendance size and them wanting to protect themselves from loses in case we did get promoted. If 17k all had bets on City going up at 5/1 then they will be in trouble.

    As for Man City they are favs and rightly so based on winning it last season, money they have to spend etc but they are not like 1/10 on to win it.

    Bookies just react. If Man City lose a few at the start of the season their odds will change.

    I would take no notice of the bookies. 10 games in we will all find out more.
     
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  8. Rogered Tart

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    I know how betting markets work Fordy but thanks all the same
     
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    Well don’t quote them then until the business end of the season- the run in.
     
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    City are 6/4 to get promoted. Obviously money for us and no idea where you got 5/1 from.

    The Bookies know everything. Thats why you never see a bankrupt bookie. They take hammerings from time to time but they rarely get it wrong.

    Find me 5/1 to get promoted and lets talk...
     
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  11. Rogered Tart

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    Who are you to tell anyone what they can and can't quote on a forum?
     
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    I know of a bankrupt bookie, had a little shop on Heaton road in Manningham. Walter something. My uncle had an accumlator on the gee gees that came in. He did not lay the bet off , it finished him, although said uncle only got part of the winnings.
     
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  13. Fordy117

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    I said they are not going to have us at 5/1 at this stage.
     
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    Well if they are talking bollocks and quoting Bookies or The Sun I will call them out.
     
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    That's probably why we are low too as actual bets made will bring down the price.
     
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    PS, nothing to do with attendances. Absolute nonsense. Prices move in if there is money for a selection. You make out because we are Bradford we are automatically favourites, again talking crap. We are up there as a favourite because we have convinced punters we have a very good chance with Hughes and our recruitment. Thats why we are short odds.

    See below the difference.

    19/20 - 9/1 favs
    20/21 - 14/1
    21/22 - 12/1
    22/22 - 13/2
     
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  17. Rogered Tart

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    Call me out anytime but don't tell me what I can or cannot quote.
     
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  18. Fordy117

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    Well tough I will.
     
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    to win the league
     
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