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Steve Evans

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Craven Cottager, Feb 19, 2022.

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Will you stop attending matches if Steve Evans is appointed manager at City?

  1. I will no longer attend matches.

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  2. I'll still go to matches.

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  1. nicknameless

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    ROFL.

    You keep telling yourself it's fine then. Up to you isn't it.
     
  2. borderlescott

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    I think if he was here a lot of those saying they wouldn’t turn up, still would. Despite how much he’s disliked.

    there seems to be a myth that he’s not done anything in football for eight years that is being peddled on here, Twitter and Facebook.

    Evans might not have won a promotion since then but he was managing basket case clubs and only Mansfield was a job at this level post-Rotherham. He actually did ok at Gills and bettered expectation, even if he didn’t win promotion. Leeds were a tough job in the Championship too. Posh a tough job in League One at the time - most managers who went there similarly failed.
     
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  3. Storck

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    And it is a tough job here were most managers have similarly failed so what makes you think he will succeed? As you said he hasn’t managed it at any of the other tough jobs
     
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  4. Mike Hunt

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    If MacAnthony recommends Evans I think that will be enough.

    Personally I couldn’t give a toss about his past, I’d like to see a manager who could be here for a few years and build something around say Paudie, Cooke, Staunton, FCD, Vernam and Watt. Evans will be here for 18 months, we’ll have more of the same shit recruitment and nothing will change.
     
  5. Carts #CTID

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    Steve Evans first game in charge - Mansfield at home next Saturday. Against his former club. Steve Evans Bradford Army!
     
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  6. borderlescott

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    He’s not the man for me Storck. Because he will antagonise too many. I want Morais working under Jewell, personally.

    but if the club appointed Evans purely on footballing reasons I think he would take us up next season. He did great things at Rotherham at this level. I’m mates with two Rotherham fans who still rate him very highly.

    Mansfield is a stain on his CV the board would need to overlook. But he’s a perfectly viable contender based on his managerial record, for a club in L2.

    i don’t doubt he’s turned down two approaches from L2 clubs as he says.
     
  7. Bigrod

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    If people want a manager, who has had a promotion more recently than Evans, who has managed clubs at this level, including ‘basket cases’ (not my term), then someone like Keith Curle has taken Northampton up a couple of seasons ago. Surely his positive CV is more recent and relevant than Evans, and I am not suggesting he is appointed, just trying to add some perspective. Seems like some are ‘bigging up’ Evans, when there are far more relevant options out there.
     
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  8. Storck

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    Didnt Rotherham have money to spend though ?
     
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  9. Petrov

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    We've just sacked the manager with the most recent and most relevant cv for getting clubs promoted out of league 2.
     
  10. borderlescott

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    I don’t know tbh. I would imagine they had one of the best budgets in L2, as we do now, and they used the loan market well and churned through a lot of players.

    that said, Tony Stewart is not a reckless spender and whenever they went into the Champ (and do even now) they do not break the bank. They just reinvest what they’ve made? Dare I say it, they behave sustainably!

    The key to Evans’ success was improving players like Revell, Agard, Pringle and Frecklingtom.

    Revell and Agard were slumming it at tinpot clubs and he improved them into one of the best partnerships in the division. Agard, a former Everton youth, had been released at Yeovil.

    They paid an undisclosed fee to Posh for Frecklington. Ben Pringle had been a fringe player at Derby, going nowhere fast. Improved under Evans and moved on up to Fulham thereafter but his career petered out elsewhere.
     
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  11. banbrotam

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    Explain why.

    In the previous two seasons he got Gillingham to two Top 10 L1 finishes, for the first time this century. That on one of the lowest budgets.

    Are we really that great, we can afford to turn our nose up at that?

    He's not even my first choice. But since Sparks has fouled up big style - clearly McCann, Lee Johnson etc aren't interested (and so apart to appease the boo boys, what was the point of sacking Adams) he's got no choice.

    And in fairness to Evans he has a genuine respect for the club. Forget the incident of 10 years ago, before and since he'd made respectful comments of the club and how can't understand it isn't higher.

    We're rapidly turning into Sunderland. That managers no good because he's too experienced. That one's no good because he plays crap footie. That managers no good because he either / managed or played for our rivals or once upset us 10 years ago.

    Meanwhile, amongst all this why so and so is rubbish - we're fast heading towards a Scunthorpe situation for next season.
     
  12. JonButterfield

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    It's almost that long since he did owt!
     
  13. Mike Hunt

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    You have only got to look at several of the posters on here but most of the posters under a WOAP article to see that many see Rupp as a positive thing for Bradford City.

    He’s pumped untold millions in
    Stuck by us when nobody else would have
    A good and honourable man
    Can’t name anyone else who would buy the club.
    He wants to right the wrongs of Edin.
    It’s all the fault of keyboard warriors who make a toxic environment
    He doesn’t pick the team/choose players/sign the manager
    It’s not Ryan that does that either
    Did we mention the toxic keyboard warriors?

    Relegated 18/19, a flirt with the relegation spots in 20/21 under McCall. If this run continues it will be another lower placed finish than the season before.

    We have some absolute dogshit under contract for next season and the better players out of contract won’t stay. I fear a bad summer of recruitment, and it’s been dreadful for years so why will that change, and with the likes of Stockport or Chesterfield coming up then next season could be a long fight against relegation.

    Unless something changes this club will be relegated under Rupp, season after season we’re promised shiny things and instead it gets worse and worse.

    There is even one poster on WOAP saying we haven’t recovered from Richmond’s six weeks of madness. That was two years, two years, before AFC Wimbledon were even formed and they’re in the division above us.

    Yet Rupp is the saviour and proud custodian. Bollocks.
     
  14. wetherbywhaler

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    Yes they did Storck and boy did he spend it. Signed loads of players some of whom never played. Totally wasteful, always on to the Chairman for more, behaved like a child when he didn’t get his way and in the end it finished badly. I had this from the Rotherham owner at the time, a complete nightmare apparently.
     
  15. banbrotam

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    You asked what he's done since. He's taken Gillingham to the Top 10 in L1 for two successive seasons. The first time they've done that this century.

    I felt similar to you - but I looked up his record and also you'll find a lot of Gills fans very complimentary about him and blaming their notorious chairman for their position.

    Remember Scally, their chairman, refused Stevenage permission to talk to Evans just before he did the usual chairman cowardly act, got rid of him, so he could deflect the heat from the fans. Unfortunately it hasn't worked and he's in a situation where sadly his family is getting abused.
     
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  16. borderlescott

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    well said. He hasn’t dropped off the radar like some are suggesting.

    He knows Gillingham, as a club, are only equipped to go so far.

    But with us there is so much untapped potential. Lower Championship potential.

    He’s loves the attention and razzmatazz that managing a big club would bring and would revel in winding up our rivals.

    I remember him saying he could put out an u19s team vs bradford and he’d still beat us. He always seemed to when Parky was here.
     
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    :joy::joy::joy: Took them from L2 to The Championship in successive seasons. Helped them survive a season in The Championship, which Rotherham - no manager has done that since.

    But of course "a complete nightmare" :unsure:

    Please give me some of those bad dreams for the next two and a half years!!
     
  18. Storck

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    Think we will need a new sugar daddy to pay for it
     
  19. banbrotam

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    There's an argument to say that Scally is the worst Chairman in the football league. Granted, he does well on their small budgets to keep them in L1, but does it by basically getting rid of managers when the going gets tough.

    And then no doubt wonders why similar sized clubs like Rotherham and Wycombe outperform his club. Owners who actually understand a 20 match dodgy spell, isn't the end of the world.

    Those 10th positions from Evans were as impressive as anything he's done. Clearly he can galvanise a team.

    Yes. Of course Evans will test the patience of the club (which is why Rotherham got rid) once too often and leave in less than 3 years. But who cares, if we are re-established in L1.

    McAntony at Peterborough has nothing but praise for Evans as the T&A article, they lifted showed.

    "If you ignore all the hysterics, they are actually really good coaches and a management team.”

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/19308065.bradford-city-go-evans-boss-says-macanthony/

    So we've got arguably the best Chairman of a small football club, thinking that Evans is decent - but we'll go on what our fans think based on an event of 10 years ago.

    Madness!!
     
  20. Inspector

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    Did we ever beat a team managed by Evans? I can’t remember if we did or we didn’t.
     
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