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McCall IN/OUT (with new Poll)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rcbantam, Sep 15, 2020.

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McCall - Should he stay or should he go now?

Poll closed Dec 13, 2020.
  1. Stay

    50 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Go

    128 vote(s)
    64.0%
  3. Uncertain

    22 vote(s)
    11.0%
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  1. Park bantam

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    How do you know he hasn’t got the potential to be an excellent CEO. He is certainly doing a great job in his present job.
     
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  2. Fordy117

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    Some jobs for people are too big and this one is certainly for him.

    More worrying that if the club having been looking for over a year can only find him as a CEO it says more about Rupp and the club if i am honest.

    If he is doing a great job at present in his current role then leave him there.
     
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  3. Park bantam

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    Once again how do you know what he is capable of
     
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  4. Fordy117

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    The bloody tea lady might be capable but I wouldn't want her.

    We need an outsider, a proven CEO.
     
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  5. Bigrod

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    I understood that most CEO’s had a background in occupations such as Finance, Business or Law.
     
  6. YungNath

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    How do you know he's capable of being a CEO when nothing in his CV suggests he's worked in a role like that before. Running comms and running an entire business are very different.
     
  7. Rogered Tart

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    Doesn't surprise me, there are some on here who think you can just sign players and play them anywhere on the pitch. Jobs tend to be very skill specific, whether on or off the field.
     
  8. Mike Hunt

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    That right is it? Finance, business or law?
     
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    what was Baldwin’s background before he started at City dealing with the marketing?
     
  10. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    Not necessarily. I have worked at a couple of places where the CEO has come from a technical background, CIO, CTO with engineering degrees but end up running the company.
     
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  11. Faithful Bantam

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    If we were playing a reasonably settled side and system, with a few kids who were raw but showing signs of developing whilst we were getting tanked, there'd be a degree of support. Where's the hope of something better watching BRE shrink by 8 inches when he needs to win a header, or Guthrie ambling round like a three legged donkey? What's the name of the young lad we have up front? One of the double barrelled ones I think. Sod it, play him. He literally couldn't be worse than Guthrie - even if he offers nothing in an attacking sense, he can at least presumably run.

    Rhodes interview looks ever more ridiculous by the day. Fans want more? More than this? How dare they. All it needs now is Sparks to be appointed as CEO and our place as a permanent irrelevance is cemented. I'm pretty much done anyway- though I still have just about enough interest to watch games via ifollow with a couple of mates and have a beer. But I'm hanging by a thread and I assume many other are the same. The next 6 months, and the decisions made around CEO and ownership are the most important in the clubs history. More so than the admins. If we dont land on a plan, the finance and the leadership to rebuild this club soon, we'll be down here indefinitely.
     
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    My CEO has a background in Technology. As do I (Technology/Data).

    I see nothing in Sparks history to suggest he's capable of running a football club. It's nothing personal, but the turnaround at this club is huge. It needs someone with a proven background. Preferably Jenkins, but Baldwin would be a good move too. In any event, ANY CEO worth their salt bases their planning around growth and investment. You cant plan to remain static in any industry, or you go backwards - exactly what's happening here. Who ever comes in, needs to be backed with a proper plan and itll need some investment. That's not a case of blindly throwing money into over committed playing budgets, but it IS very much about putting money into the foundations of a club and laying down a commercial and footballing strategy that everyone associated with the club can get behind. I dont believe our fans are incapable of patience - but it has to be patience invested in something credible, led by credible and trusted people.
     
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    CEOs come from all types of background including business development. I am not saying he will get or even want the job but there is absolutely nothing to say he wouldn’t be capable of it.
     
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    McCall inherited a very poor squad also.

    With a directionless leadership at the top of the club what’s the point in sacking McCall. Why would you trust JR to appoint another manager? Why would you want JR to appoint someone else when he’s leaving shortly. Makes absolutely no sense. All he’ll be doing is giving the new CEO a manager he doesn’t want.

    When the new CEO comes in my bet is he’ll give McCall until the end of the season unless there is a very definite relegation battle. We’ll then see what happens, but the new CEO very definitely has a reputation for appointing from within.....
     
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    Bring back Big Geoff, certainly will not be boring :)
     
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    That was exactly my point. This is a £5-6m turnover a year business, it’s not a FTSE 100 giant, it’s an SME. It needs someone who know a bit about football, or someone who knows they don’t know enough about it to employ someone who does and it needs the ability to turnaround the internal culture and to set the strategy to engage with the fans and rebuild trust. It’s not the apprentice.
     
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  17. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    Faithful Bantam.

    Fully agree. I wasn't arguing for Sparks I was answering the question from the initial poster as to whether a CEO had to have Law/Accountancy background.

    However it is amusing that we are demanding this type of review, scrutiny, for the CEO but blithely accepted the appointment of Teflon back in February based purely on emotions and, essentially, what he did at BCFC as a player.

    If we apply that to the CEO then Teflon or even Sparks is a perfect choice
    ;-)

    But.....with regard to Teflon....Would we accept someone for the position of CEO who had been fired from his last two positions and had actually failed to deliver any tangible success at every CEO position he had held?

    Interesting thought because if we apply our thinking for the managers role to the CEO the it appears we would!
     
  18. Rogered Tart

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    Hold on, you're blaming McCall but who actually asked him to come here for a third time? He didn't just knock on the door and ask for a job.
     
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  19. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    No I am not blaming Teflon.

    I am stating that we (the supporters) did not ask for a similar level of scrutiny for the appointment of the manager as we are now asking for the CEO.

    We accepted second best because he had been so good at a different position.

    We question any possibility that Sparks might be given the role because there is no proof he can do it.

    Yet we had clear proof that Teflon was not fit for purpose but we welcomed the appointment

    NOTE-I use we to indicate overall supporters. Clearly it was not everyone.
     
  20. Faithful Bantam

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    And someone who has the contacts, networking and interpersonal skills to extract either private investment or investment from Rupp, to finance the areas that need money to trigger growth. Its time to stop assuming the financial limitations we do, to be more innovative and manage financial risk much more effectively over the longer term.
     
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