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Transfers (also ambition/investment/ground & lots more.....)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Park bantam, Jun 5, 2020.

  1. Get Rid Of It

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    Oi, stop using my username!
    Never been so bloody popular on here as the last couple of seasons, get rid of rahic get rid of rupp get rid of rhodes get rid of the useless players(thats pretty much all of them).

    *back when city were in L1 a mate of mine's son hung around after the game and got the usual selfie with Akinfenwa,bear in mind he is the opposition player, but was happy to give his time and apparently is a true gent off the field.
    A beast on the field though.
     
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  2. donhutchinsaffro

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    Rogered I agree. I enjoyed those two seasons.

    No one as mentioned the dog bothers chairman who gambled on going up to the promised land. They didn't last long and look at them now woof flippin woof down .....down... down boy
     
  3. Sergio Pinto III

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    You missed a 0.
     
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  4. Inspector

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    I don’t for one minute believe Rupp has any intention to relocate, but I do believe there is a plan to leave, whether that’s getting the mystical £10 million for the club or cutting his losses.

    In an ideal world I’d like to see Stuart head up a consortium and implement his philosophy, which probably aligns with how most City fans view the way the club should be run. Whether he wants that role, rather than coaching is another issue.
     
  5. Sergio Pinto III

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    I wasn't a big fan when he was last here - nothing really against him either. He was just 'ok'. But he would walk into any of our sides since he left and I'd imagine he would be fairly handy at L2 level.

    We won't get much better than a L1 striker who scores 12/13 a season for free and on an affordable wage so taking that into account I wouldn't be against him returning.

    A 'bang average' L1 striker could be a 'fairly decent' L2 striker. If the drop in level sees him add another 5/6 to his tally then that's not a bad return.
     
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  6. Offside

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    Richmond is relevent in todays situation , he built a stadium we could never in our wildest dreams fill , this is a constant millstone around our necks . It's an embarresment of a ground in need of a compete overhaul and modernising . No hot water in toilets , seats falling in bits , looks very dated and the facilities for away fans is a complete farce . I actually wrote to Richmond and complained when the ground plans were announced , why not buy a team to grace the stadium then concentrate on the ground update . He never replied , we've the delights of Barrow maybe Halifax or even Harrogate in the same division next season , how great is that ?.
     
  7. Lard Arse

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    Ricmond left in 2001, how can you say that the current state of the ground seats etc are his doing. that's 19 years since he departed. Mind bongling honestly
    After the 1st Admin, the ground was still owned by the club and when Richmond left the club it was STILL owned by the club.
    The status of the ground changed dramatically at the 2nd Amin, LONG AFTER Geoffrey left.
     
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  8. ahar964

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    and I believe their lifelong fan, Huddersfield through and through, ex-chairman now wants his £35m back
     
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  9. Offside

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    He built the stadium that could never be filled , he loaded the debt onto the club . He signed over the hill expensive players that left a legacy of spiraling unservicable debt , it cost him nothing but a tarnished reputation . He relied on a TV agreement to fund his ambitions which fell through . Thats Richmonds legacy , 2 years in the PL took us 14 years to get over , he tried it at Leeds and was sussed out more or less straight away . The debt ( unconfirmed ) when he left was £40 m , he created a Bury and Bolton situation that nearly finished the club .
     
  10. Mike Hunt

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    Ignore the ground for one moment, and I don’t necessarily disagree with some of your points. City supposedly had a £2.6m wage budget last season and finished 9th, it would have been lower if the season had gone to the end. Every season the squad is renewed with expensive players who in general fail to perform. There are sides in the division above who have lower salary budgets and succeed. The last time we were in league 2 we had big wage budgets and failed until striking lucky with Parky.

    None of this, absolutely none of it, is Richmond’s doing. Divorce the stadium and wage budgets in your mind, City spend more on wages than most League 2 clubs and still can’t compete? Ask yourself why. It’s not the stadium lease, it’s not the six weeks of madness two decades ago, it’s not cheaper season tickets, it’s a failure to have the infrastructure in place to scout and recruit quality players and coaches. It’s appointing McCall for a third time because he puts bums on seats and you have his mobile number, it’s recruiting Billy Clarke for a third time because he’s cheap and you know him, it’s selling your two best strikers and signing a reserve from Stevenage a few days before sacking your manager.

    It ain’t Richmond or his legacy that’s doing all that.
     
  11. shoatsy

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    But what a ride it was
     
  12. Mike Hunt

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    Ignore the ground for one moment, and I don’t necessarily disagree with some of your points. City supposedly had a £2.6m wage budget last season and finished 9th, it would have been lower if the season had gone to the end. Every season the squad is renewed with expensive players who in general fail to perform. There are sides in the division above who have lower salary budgets and succeed. The last time we were in league 2 we had big wage budgets and failed until striking lucky with Parky.

    None of this, absolutely none of it, is Richmond’s doing. Divorce the stadium and wage budgets in your mind, City spend more on wages than most League 2 clubs and still can’t compete? Ask yourself why. It’s not the stadium lease, it’s not the six weeks of madness two decades ago, it’s not cheaper season tickets, it’s a failure to have the infrastructure in place to scout and recruit quality players and coaches. It’s appointing McCall for a third time because he puts bums on seats and you have his mobile number, it’s recruiting Billy Clarke for a third time because he’s cheap and you know him, it’s selling your two best strikers and signing a reserve from Stevenage a few days before sacking your manager.

    It ain’t Richmond or his legacy that’s doing all that.
     
  13. Offside

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    It was built on false promises and no money , i agree about the ride but we punched above our weight and had no plan B . The 6 weeks of madness cost this club big time no matter what anybody says . A gradual build up , building a proper training ground and a steady improvement in the ground would have been a better way forward , planning for the future . The lower leagues are cluttered with clubs like Bradford City and " ambitious " former chairmen .
     
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  14. Park bantam

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    It was the highlight of a lifetimes support. Yes it came at a heavy cost but I ain’t going to see it again so selfishly if you like I am glad it happened
     
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  15. Old Grey Fox

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    It's a lot more than that.There are pages about it on the Down at the Mac forum,it's a good read,as it proves we are not the only ones in the brown stuff.
     
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  16. Lard Arse

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    Firstly he was on an equal partnership with the Rhodes family and it is said but never confirmed to my knowledge that Rhodes et al actually had a 0.1% majority.
    I assume that you do know how a CVA works., that major debt went with the 1st Administration. That debt was never paid back in it's entirety and only a small fraction so much pence in the £ repaid to creditors. I re-collect 2-3p but open to clarrification was repaid.

    When the club was re-stablished it was WITHOUT Richmond by the Rhodes family it was relatively debt free. It was then placed back into Administration in 2004 . In the interveaning years between Admin 1 and Admin 2 Richmond was no longer at the club.

    But you still think the reason we have no hot water in the toilets at Valley Parade in 2020 is down to Geoffrey Richmond **so funny
     
  17. Old Grey Fox

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    It was actually Rory who looked after Akinfenwa.Whatever,he never seemed to have a good game against us.
     
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  18. Lard Arse

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    Ive been on this earth nearly 50 years and in that time the contstant is

    Bradford City building a Training ground
    Odsal Stadium being the Wembley of the North.

    Neither will be achieved well after I have gone
     
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  19. Offside

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    You're missing my point entirley , the stadium was never going to be viable , the crowd base never ever justified the capacity , the ground was the least of the the clubs forward planning . Richmond ruled the club whatever the % on the board hence the " 6 weeks of madness " it was "debt free " because many local buisnesses had no option but to except the CVA or face bancruptcy . He caused a lot of il feeling amongst local companies , he loaded debt against the club NOT his own personal wealth , the Rhodes family stuck by the club , Richmond waltz away and tried the same trick at Leeds .How much do you think the Rhodes family should have actually put into the club to cover Richmonds failings ?, along came another Richmond type chancer IE Gibbs , who bailed the club out with his family pension funds which is still costing us dearly for a massive white elephant that Richmond sanctioned , thats without mentioning the club shop etc etc , so yes the legacy does bare relevence to the club even 19 years after his departure .
     
  20. The Original EB

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    Morals now linked to returning to Bolton or City.
     
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