Expectations of McCall this season?

I think he means that if you win games but don't get promoted they don't count towards your managerial record. I suppose that means any manager losing but avoiding relegation gets to keep their job. It's an interesting concept.

 

Do I think hiring McCall is weak appointment -100%. It is weak and has no backbone! It's an appointment that highlights the club has no future planning. Club just care about season ticket sales.

However, McCall is an appointment that gives us time to get our house in order. It's an appointment that will bring the fans together and we can hopefully build towards a future.

We were wasting our time with Bowyer in every way but McCall deserves time and he will get time from me.

Do I think he's a good manager - No, I don't! But I can tell even by little things he said last week before and after the game he's a better manager than he was the last time he was here. No, dressing things up, saying we lacked quality and even talking about poor throwings.

Do I think McCall is the right fit for us- 100% he loves the club and knows this will be his last chance. If I a man honest I would of given him a 4 year contract but said we will be appointing a sporting director to help out.

Give him time! Bowyer made a team more unbalanced and we need to start again. I hope we go up this season because next season will be a lot tougher but he deserves more than the now 14 games you are giving him.

 

Under the same circumstances?

 

So you would give a weak appointment a 4 year contract!

 

Answering the thread title... Minimum of reaching the play offs. Anything else, will be a failure in my eyes.

It's a decent old team, off the field momentum has been created and seedlings of hope can be warranted from Saturday.

This is a competitive league no matter the gash spoken at times across this site and other popular social media sites. But we have a competitive team too, to reach the play offs. With only a 4 point deficit, plenty to play for.

I guess my personal dilemma is should we fail to reach the play offs, what of SM.

 

He's a weak appointment because we can't always use him as a go too but as I have stated the club needs to look to build and when building you need togetherness.

I said I would of told him straight we intend to get a Sporting Director in at some point.

Look, I am happy McCall is here but this is his last chance and like @Dennis has said he will be judged on results but for me he needs time.

 

How much time? What would you define as success for this season?

 

Absolutely Stuart's success should be measured on results, but I also anticipate more patience for a manager playing a more entertaining and attacking form of football.

It wasn't the results that got Bowyer sacked - I know he didn't win in 7 or whatever, but two relatively heavy defeats aren't usually the end for a manager - it was purely the football that did him in with weeks and weeks of unrest that started and continued while we weren't even losing consecutive games.

Stuart will be able to endure a similar run to Bowyer simply because fans don't want to gauge their eyes out on a match day or wash their girlfriend's hair as opposed to attend.

 

Christ, cant you just let us have a week with no shithousery about the manager? I know its a forum but hes not even been here a week and you are already bringing down the good mood.

 

You're all over-thinking it. Win-ratios, expectations play-off's blah blah blah. Remember how we all felt a couple of weeks ago and contrast that to the excitement we felt going to the game on Sat. First time in ages right? Sometime, somewhere in the future someone will have to assess how things are going. Not now. We've made a move, it feels a lot better now, just enjoy it.

 

This season, my expectation is simply that he starts to embed a way of playing that's more enjoyable and gives cause for optimism for next season. To re-engage the players and to show that the 7 or 8 players worth keeping, are improving under him. Purely on the basis that it's a terrible league, that might be enough to get playoffs. But this squad needs a massive overhaul, so for me the real judgement starts next season.

 

He's contracted until end of next season, so I think he needs at least until November. Think this wanting 3 windows like Bowyer stated is nonsense in lower league. 1 window to prove yourself and make a difference considering most manager have a 18 month - 2 year contract.

Success for me this season is play offs for McCall.

 

The squad was built by Bowyer and is too big and massively unbalanced. There are glaring holes at RB and DM and he loaned out our only goalscorer in Vaughan. Missing the playoffs would have been a failure for Bowyer but due to the points mentioned any new manager would have to be judged mainly on what happens next season.

 

The squad was built by Bowyer and is too big and massively unbalanced. There are glaring holes at RB and DM and he loaned out our only goalscorer in Vaughan. Missing the playoffs would have been a failure for Bowyer but due to the points mentioned any new manager would have to be judged mainly on what happens next season.

 

Two years ago almost to the day we sack our manager after an awful January, in 7th place and after a defeat at Boundary Park.

New man came in and draws first game 1-1 before we drift away............

 

Too big, too much crap, too many holes. Honestly, the only players worth keeping are R'OD, The O'Connors, Wood, Cooke, Pritchard, one of Novak or Donaldson, maybe Reeves and possibly BRE as backup. That's pretty much it.

 

When I registered a vote myself, I think I said promoted through the play offs - but that was more optimism that a bare minimum expectation. Like you say, yet another post-transfer window appointment of a manager with a totally different style to the previous manager IS a pretty good excuse should we not even make the play offs.

I'd sooner blame Rhodes and Rupp for that than Stuart, just as I'd sooner blame Bowyer for our predicament than Stuart as well - not JUST because I prefer McCall to those individuals, but because surely they have more blame to carry than the new manager?

There's a lot of reasons for giving Stuart more time and patience than others at the club - but while that level of sympathy is going to have some questioning whether it's blind devotion to the man or not, I still think the factors discussed are fair. Especially the style of football and the fact I found a 1-1 draw with Grimsby infinitely more entertaining than a 3-0 win over Oldham under Bowyer...

 

Trying to put McCall to one side for a minute.

For any manager I'd want to see improvement in results but also outlook and plan from now to the end of the season. I don't like judging managers before they have had a summer transfer window as a minimum but as with Hopkin or Jackson it's not always justifiable.

Specifically with McCall though I really struggle simply because I don't see him as a particularly good manager. If it goes badly for the rest of the season the memories of how his last 2 times here ended will be just too raw.

I know however that McCall has to actually do terribly for people to accept him leaving. I know that if he just fails then the majority of people will want to plod on with it on and on. It's a weird mindset for me.