Sack the manager

I hope Bowyer reads your post. You’re 100 percent correct.

 

Dunno mate, at least they strung quite a few passes together in that clip!

 

No issue with playing out from the back, it's what I want to see. The issue I have is what that clip shows - defenders pass between themselves, going nowhere and then just hoof it upfield because they haven't been coached on how to play through the thirds.

 

With you 100% ! I said that Bowyer changed nothing last season. He came in and we actually looked worse ! ,if that was possible ? But he managed it !. As for Rhodes hes the single thread running through all of this. When he and Lawn sold to the Germans you thought at last ! Now lets see the club without Rhodes involved see where this takes us. We actually made a great call when Stiart came back and the club appeared progressive again "there was life after Rhodes"

But then Rahic proves to be a complete wrong un and that figures because Rhodes had a hand in annointing him !
Then it all goes to shit and guess whos back like Dracula from the dead Rhodes ! ? Its like the Day of the Living Dead down there it really is.

Then Rhodes goes looking for a "safe pair of hands" and Bowyer arrives and at first you think well hes got Blackpool up ; decent enough guy but the reality is that hes no master plan for playing football; oh ! for a plan of any sort ? Rhodes gets in some half decent players on paper but Bowyer cannot get the best ftom them.

In my view Rhodes should end his association with the club. Not cos I hate the fella but simply for the sake of us all including his own family. Its time for us all to move on boy ! Is it time ?

But he has to make a decision now to part ways with Bowyer and Drury. Or if not Bowyer at minimum Drury who again is a constant in the mess of the last three seasons on the pitch. Can you imagine the likes of seasoned pros Donaldson and Vaughan taking their from him because I can't ?

Rhodes need to make a decision to end this chapter; though God knows where its going? But I do know this if he doesnt Bowyer fails and he wont be here in May. So we are looking at 16 weeks left for Bowyer because this is not working. So we either accept it and the inevitible bitter end ? Or we do something about it ?. I would be asking Neil Warnock if he was interested and he might get a suprise answer ? We are just the sort of club for Warnock at this time.

But the obvious thing to do is to bring back Stuart and let him take us on for the rest of the season. Who knows with Warnock as the Director of Football ?

If Rhodes does that he gets an imnediate bounce factor on and off the pitch. And importantly he backs up what is looking a faultering 2020/21 season ticket campaign.
Then when hes done that he needs to consider his own position.

But something has got to change in the next few days !

 

Agree..............apart from the 'Evans' bit....

 

I remember that clip yesterday, said to my lad while they were doing it, whats the point of this when the end product is a hoof to Doyle. It was like groundhog day from last season. It also completely exposed Bowyers limitations as a manager, his instruction and set up failed everyone. Imagine how demoralised your players are when your only option is a log hoof to the country's top scorer, who ironically, isn't a target man. And try playing out of defence when your best midfielder is on the bench. I'll be honest as it stands i'm done with it, its not enjoyable and the club doesn't seem to want to go anywhere.

 

if we sack the manager now and we don't get promotion, do we sack the next manager in the summer? and in 12 months time if we're not too of the league again, do we make another change?

what we need at this club is a long-term plan of how and where we want to be, now I'm not saying Gary Bowyer is the man to do this and I'm not saying that at this moment in time questions should not be raised about his tenure so far but we can't keep doing the same thing of sacking people every 6 months.

 

I just don’t get this argument, of course we don’t and I doubt anyone wants this hire and fire culture. However you cannot simply persist with something which is quite clearly not working.. That is pure blind faith rather than logical

 

60 years I have watched City, and for the first time in all those years I don't want to go next Tuesday to watch the match . The blame lies with the coaching staff, manager, but the players have to take some blame for their total lack of back bone as well. It's not doing their reputations any good just giving in, but after saying all that Bowyer must go, and go now!

 

Let me expand on the Evans bit!

Evans was the only person I could think of that would of told it how it is.

Bradford City need telling! It's a club that lacks massive direction on and off the pitch! It's an extremely weak business.

As soon as someone says that it needs a new training ground or stadium etc the defence is the cost etc. It's never, yes we understand and currently looking into things etc

An Evans like would be telling Rupp what is required on and off the pitch. Don't need a yes manager!

Bowyer has shocked me how weak he is! Drury, Doyle - he's not the man the club needed last year.

The club lacks footballing people around it!

I said months ago Bowyer needs to go and now we have this toxic atmosphere, fans falling out with each other at games and fans not wanting to go. It's only going to get worse. Hopefully Rhodes will do the right thing and not act like a coward.

 

Similar to me. I dont want to go on Tuesday either, whether a 54 year old habit of attending home games takes over on the night and I find myself there is another matter of course.

Strange feeling though when we are in a play off position isnt it?

 

how long would you give someone to turn things around? Parkinson once went 20+ games without a win. we were dire for months on end but he turned it around, after 10 games of that run i'm sure a lot of people would have been saying it was blind faith to stick with him then. now I'm not saying Bowyer will turn things around, he may not, he might starting on Tuesday, but all situations are different and there are a lot of factors to consider.

McCall lost 6 (i think) on the bounce but fans wanted him to have more time to try and turn things around and fans will point to his brand of football seemingly being better, but being beat 4-1 at home by Wimbledon wasn't fun. sticking with McCall at that time would have been blind faith.

again, I'm not saying Bowyer is 100% the person to take this club forward but whatever decision is made, if it is to bring someone new in needs to be done with a long-term view in mind not a short-term 'let's see if we get promotion this season and if not we'll review it again in the summer' - that for me is why Warnock isn't the man. all he is bothered about is getting 12 games to reach 1000. he's not interested in Bradford City and he'd be off in the summer and we'd be starting all over again. is that the type of appointment we want when we next change manager?

people yesterday calling for Gary Jones to be the new manager; why? what has he done in coaching to suggest he has any credentials to take the club forward. it's a bizarre suggestion. people will point to the fact that he was a good player for us but we had one of Englands greatest ever captains as manager of the club once and he was awful whilst in charge. is Jones even doing his coaching badges? bringing him in would be blind faith.

the people at the top of the club need to decide on a vision of what they want the club to be on the pitch and build a management team and squad around that, but they need to stick to it - and there's no way Nathan Jones is coming anywhere near this level of football again so he can be crossed off the list.

 

Genuine question. When was the last time we replaced a manager part way through the season and it led to a significant upturn in our form that season?

Just from my own memory. Bowyer? No. Hopkin? No. Grayson? No. Parkinson? No. Jackson? No. Taylor? No. Wetherall? No. Robson? No. Law? No. Hutchinson? No.

 

I do hope your wrong because if your not then the club has learnt nothing, and that is very worrying.

 

How the fook has this fool managed to assemble 13 MFs who are either shite or bang average.

The squad is too big and has an awful imbalance.

 

I'd suggest central midfield is just the starting point.

 

True. Most of those were replacing managers when we were in relegation scraps though.

Grayson was a bit of an exception but Edin had caused carnage in the background there and nobody would have succeeded.

We’re stable off field this time and have relative quality (for L2) in this squad.

It Is defo unusual for a team in top 7 to sack their boss but he’s mismanaging us and we should be doing much better.

In the last six games we’ve produced relegation-like form, worryingly, and lost all momentum.

 

we are pretty much out of playoffs given Cheltenham’s 2 games in hand so will be playing catch-up. We are probably about 7-10 points off autos realistically (4 but the team have two games in hand). That’s going to be virtually impossible to claw back from here.

Time to act is now.

 

It would cost us to sack Bowyer but it would cost far more in terms of lost season ticket sales to keep him.