Election 2019 (with Prediction Poll)

Didn't you just post this "The manifesto is the stuff of fairy tales"

I believe Labour at the time were going to borrow money to stimulate the economy, they got slaughtered by the Tories for suggesting such a thing, then the Tories offered "quantitative easing" borrowing by any other name I believe, which many countries then followed.
Until recently the EU were still doing it I believe, another good reason for Brexit even though we're not in the Euro Zone.

 

Yes I said the 2019 Labour Manifesto is the stuff of fairy tales. I was referring to the 2010 Labour Manifesto in that point.

 

Sorry I thought you was referring to manifesto's generally, as we know very few things that get promised in manifesto's actually happen.
To be fair both Tory and Labour manifesto's have been questioned by the Institute for Financial Studies for not being financially feasible.

 

A guy on TV just now saying Cardiff Uni have done a survey and predicted Wales could return a Tory majority, as a majority of Welsh voters voted leave and with the dissatisfaction of Corbyn Wales could turn Blue.

 

My vote is going to the lib dems this time. Pointless as my seat is firmly in labour hands. But i have my principles and never wanted brexit, never asked for a referendum, its cost me business, its cost me sanity and so this is the one vote, though pointless i agree, that i can make based on my principles.

Oh and i said you were a moron, hardly an insult but hey.

 

I agree with some of his points, nationalise rail, energy and water. But leave it there FFS. The Tories had East Coast Mainline in the first part of the decade, owned wholly by the state but run as a company. Was bloody great service and I used it weekly to London. When it went private the fares went up and service dropped. There is something to say about that.

Look at Npower, they are owned by the French state. They do pretty well and its not as though dont make profits. Energy and rail can be managed in 2019 to a much better standard than in previous decades. But they must not make the workers public sector because thats when the problems begin. Keep them owned and run by the state but the employees have private contracts and market based wage structures. We can get cheaper prices and a decent service for once, we deserve that as people.

 

Hard to disagree with that, in theory it makes logical sense.

 

The problem with that idea with nationalization is that we have been there before and seen the consequences of the Union controlling them not management, When state owned they negotiate with the government often for political reasons and strikes soar as in the past, When privatized they negotiate with an employer without the political blackmail that nationalized industries bring, We were called the sick man of Europe for a reason and that would return

BTW Npower ( innogy ) has always been German owned and always been a private company and never been state owned, it was part of RWE the massive German Energy group and is now proposed as a part of Eon,
Maybe you were thinking of EDF who are owned by the French State

 

Ah right, so you are one of the immature posters who cannot debate or reply without resorting to personsal insults then

 

No you get me wrong. I wasnt trying to insult you i was making an observation in the form of an opinion. To say that you support Boris Johnson I find it amusing you are trying to make the debate respectable.

I mean the fact you made an assumption of my political leaning was pretty moronic. Theres a reason why words like that exist in the dictionary, to be used.

 

The point I was making was that NPower as claimed by a poster was making lots of money and the reason he implied was because it was state owned by the French and I was pointing out that NPower was never owned by the French state simple as that, So the facts are correct as after privatization in to a private company on deregulation of the industry it became part of Innogy and then sold to the German company RWE, NPower was formed as part of the break up of state supply so has always been a privately share owned company and has never been state owned as was formed by the sale of the electricity industry,
NPower was never French state owned,
National Power was formed following the privatization of the UK electricity market in 1990.

 

I have seen these and I'm someone not sure what to believe. You can slam the Tories all you want but I don't believe any nurse would dump a child on the floor. They have been nothing but fantastic when my daughter needed to go there and for children they drop everything and move them right up the queue.

Something doesn't sit right so when I see this post, I am more inclined to believe it. This is not because I believe the Tories, or Labour or any other party, it's because I believe the NHS staff are fantastic and would not let this happen.

 

I'm in Bradford East, and am likely to vote Labour.

However, if I had wanted to vote Conservative, my candidate states that she: "currently live(s) in Kent, but if elected, will immediately rent a property in Bradford East to get to know the area"

I mean, don't put yourself out on our account...

 

Unfortunately I spend time at both St James, Bexley wing and the LGI and in ten years of treatment have NEVER seen anyone adult or child having to get treatment on the floor and cannot believe any nurse or doctor would allow this, It is obvious to me this is staged FAKE NEWS and the police should investigate it,

 

That's the thing the referendum polarised us, in or out, you had to make a choice. When in reality (I believe) the vast majority were bumbling along not caring one jot whether we were in Europe or not. Crazy stuff!

 

Yeah, let's waste police time investigating whether a boy was lying on the floor in a hospital or not...

Because we've invested SO MUCH MONEY in the police force these past few years, they've probably got a whole team ready to deal with such a pressing matter

 

Surely there is CCTV in the hospital. Let's see what the truth is. If this did happen, why has it happened, it should never happen.

If on the other hand it is staged, I think we have hit a new low.

 

I'm sure CCTV footage exists within a hospital.

 

Let a political party fund an investigation with campaign funds in that case.

But don't waste the time of public services unless there is an actual, identifiable foul.

I wouldn't want to see a single penny of public money wasted on this tripe.

Even if it's a lie, it's one in a sea of thousands.