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Election 2019 (with Prediction Poll)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Tony Wilkinson, Oct 31, 2019.

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What is the outcome of the 2019 election going to be?

Poll closed Dec 13, 2019.
  1. Tory Majority outright

    15 vote(s)
    42.9%
  2. Labour Majority outright

    2 vote(s)
    5.7%
  3. Tory Minority Government

    10 vote(s)
    28.6%
  4. Labour Minority Government

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  5. Government of national unity

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Anarchy in the UK

    7 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. Dionysus

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    Black and Asian female MPs (even once you exclude Diane Abbott) receive, on average, 35% more abuse online than white female MPs. That indicates a deeply engrained issue, and this trend cuts across political lines.

    Diane Abbot specifically receives 31% of ALL abuse directed towards any MP. This isn’t just a reflection that she’s ‘stupid’ or otherwise, there are plenty of MPs that aren’t particularly bright. I’ll hold up Richard Burgon from Labour as a great example. But these numbers are several orders of magnitude apart.

    To be clear, I’m not suggesting that the content of everything people are saying is always directly racist, but there’s a demonstrable subconscious bias going on that makes black politicians receive more abuse than white politicians.
     
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  2. Dionysus

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    The data exists, and this cuts across political parties so I’m not jumping to conclusions.

    I think the race debate in this country is tainted by isolated occasions. We had the Bernardo Silva incident that seemingly nobody could take a balanced view on (a heavy polarisation of ‘lock him up and throw away the key’ or ‘it’s just a funny drawing’).

    Racism exists in all kinds of forms, almost all of the time non-maliciously and subconsciously, and I think in some form possibly 100% of people are guilty of racism on some level - this is a problem that we have to highlight and address more often as a society.

    I’d far rather live in a society that checked itself against racism maybe slightly too cautiously and educated what constituted prejudice so those people’s lives can genuinely improve, than underplayed their hand for fear of it being seen as a conspiracy theory.
     
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  3. Rogered Tart

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    But @Tony Wilkinson@Tony Wilkinson makes a fair and valid point and it could easily be construed that it is you using the ‘firewall’. I agree with those who think Dianne Abbott is not fit for government yet this opinion has nothing to do with the colour of her skin.
    Very easy to throw the racism angle into any discussion, Corbyn has the same problem now when being accused of anti semitism by the likes of Rachel Riley, hes not really anti semitic.
     
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  4. Craven Cottager

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    "Winner" ten times over!
     
  5. Tony Wilkinson

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    WOW, FREE Broadband.........................!!
    Next week Labour will be announcing that they will pay off your mortgage, credit card,electric bill, gas bill, cancelling council tax, and the week after it will be offering free food, beer and women (or men) for life...
    Sorted....roll on the red revolution.......
    MacDiddle the con man He has always been noted for promising sweet tommy rot he is a few feathers short of a full duck best ignored
     
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  6. BradfordBanter

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    Abbott gets the stick because of all the public gaffes she makes, nothing to do with racism!
     
  7. Rogered Tart

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    Its all free Tone, everything. Like when you go to your Doctors surgery, the quack works for nothing out of the goodness of his heart. Remember folks, somebody has to pay for it, there is no such thing as 'free'.
     
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  8. Rogered Tart

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    No mate, you're wrong. Its quite clearly the colour of her skin and absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with her being a complete incompetent. But then that wouldn't fit the narrative would it...
     
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  9. BradfordBanter

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    Ridiculous isn't it mate, like @Dionysus@Dionysus she is a prominent politician and that's why she gets all the grief that she does. The police policy clip is brilliant one, bloody terrible. Pulling the racist card for Dianne Abbott is a sign of the times really isn't it..
     
  10. Bronco

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    Unfortunately they are all playing the " one upmenship game" they are proving once again they don't have a clue what the ordinary Joe wants, as a father all I wanted was the best for my family that to me meant a job enough to pay of my debts, a annual holiday and enough spare to enjoy a Saturday night out with the wife, it's getting farcical the sooner its over the better.
     
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  11. Campbell's soup

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    We’ll all have to toil and work out bollox off for 2 days a week.
     
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  12. Tony Wilkinson

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    Woah.....not EVERY week..........!!!
     
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  13. Campbell's soup

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    Free broadband, less working days - throw in a free porn subscription and I’m all aboard this Marxist bandwagon.
     
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  14. Rogered Tart

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    Just like the 70s again...
     
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    Free porn? I’ve never seen such a disgraceful act of vote buying.


    Where do i sign up?
     
  16. Campbell's soup

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    Dunno - spent the 70’s in nappies shitting myself, so hope not.
     
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  17. Bronco

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    I remember Harold Wilson telling us all years ago we would have to accept that with robots taking many manual labour jobs we did back in the day we would not have to work 5 days a week and we would have to get used to more lesure time.this was back in the mid sixties.
     
  18. Tony Wilkinson

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    We were all 18 once................
     
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    Yeah but were they free nappies? Free nappies for everyone.
     
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  20. Campbell's soup

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    But it’s state sanctioned porn - Angela Rayner vs Diane Abbott lathered in baby oil and wrestling in bikinis.
    :sick:
     
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