Brexit

I agree in part but what you have is MPs who will vote down anything because they are looking to stay in the EU at all costs so whether they had an hour, a week, a month or a year to look at it they have already made their minds up.

To me leaving the EU is only worth doing if you can negotiate your own trade deals and set your own laws. Putting in amendments that remove this and you might aswell just stay in the EU. A lot of these amendments are to give the remainers Brexit in name only.

I saw on the Andrew Neil show last night a political commentator said that a large number of Labour MPs are against a general election and a vote on one could see a large number of rebels. Why are they scared? Well I guess they are now starting to realise that over 140 of them represent leave seats, they maybe in a little trouble when the electorate has their say.

 

I'm not sure Corbyn alone is the reason such as me and most of my friends and family have been Labour supporters all our lives will turn their backs on the present Labour party.
Many pasted Labour voters will never forget or forgive them for the way they have conducted themselves during these last 3 years with regards brexit.
When the Tories get re-elected it will be just short of 15 years that the Labour party have been out of power, and what is ironic is those years have been very difficult for your natural Labour voters yet they couldn't unseat the Tories through those 10years of austerity.

 

Good post @Edin Nowhere.

 

As long as you realise that the austerity had to be done because the last labour regime left us skint as they always did...

 

They were difficult times Tony no one could disagree, but it was not the Labour party that started the subprime 2008 financial crisis, that was America and the situation knocked on around the world.
Unfortunatly when ever there is a crisis financial or otherwise its the poorest in society that get the biggest clobbering, which in my opinion was a kick in the teeth when Cameron made the comment over and over again "we're all in together" really Dave !! the well heald will get through it better than those at the other end of the spectrum.
And hough out those times we have seen the gap between the haves and have nots grown wider and wider.

You can take the lad out of Labour but you cant take Labour out of the lad, if I'm still around in years to come I could see myself voting Labour again, so you Tories only have me onboard .temporarily .

 

So Blair taking us into conflict in the middle east was a good thing. Nowt like a good old fashioned war to fill the coffers...

 

I’m no fan of politics and the houses of Parliament but i understand the need for a strong opposition party/ies. This country is going nowhere fast at the moment.

 

What this survey clearly shows is that as we get older and wiser we lose the idealism of youth as the realities of life take over and vote Tory,

 

I'm not sure poor weather would have an effect on older voters, as many of them would be pensioners who have all day to register their vote and people who take voting as a duty rather than a one off.
The polls suggest young voters would support Labour, I'd suggest those are young people who acctually have an insight to politics, I think many will vote the way their parents do because that is what they have heard for the last 3 years.

 

It's often quoted and never denied that NO Labour government has ever left office with the finances in a better state than when they came in...

 

I wouldn't be voting Tory but for the fact they are the only party that wanted to deliver any type of brexit, maybe that's being selfish ?.

 

Quote from John Major, I'm sure there are many more similar....
" For every single Labour government we have ever had – from Ramsay MacDonald to Gordon Brown – has left an economic mess behind them. Every single time. And I cannot see how a government led by Mr Miliband would be any different.

There is a pattern. Labour wrecks the economy. The Tories repair it but become unpopular in doing so. Labour is re-elected and wrecks it all over again. It is time to break this pattern."

 

One could argue that Labour under Blair had a really good economic running of the economy actually paying down debt for a number of years, It was only as Brown became more influential and the shackles of Blair on him were undone that an unfettered left leaning non elected prime minister that Browns economic management ruined it

 

We've had around 37 years of Tory Government out of the last 50. Any mess the economy is in is all on them.

 

Bronco's story really saddens me because there'll be thousands of Broncos all over the country who will vote tory simply because of brexit. People in pit village that were striking in the 80s will vote for Boris. Maggie is having the last laugh there.

You can only blame the Labour Party really. I like Corbyn. I think he's a breath of fresh air and I think if he was given the opportunity he could make this country a fairer place for all. His leadership has coincided with the most divisive thing in modern times so he'll probably never get the chance. The ironic thing is that he's a 'leaver' and always has been. If only he could have led the Labour Party strongly with a united front on brexit he'd have walked the next election.

 

Corbyn is a weak leader and although a leaver he is under the control of Kear Starmer a devout remainer, Corbyn in power would be disastrous for the country as he would resume links with his terrorist friends