Grayson deal nearing close

Does that mean Grayson is signing up?

 

That’s like me saying that if I went to Vegas I could become very rich. Whilst true, the chances are slim and I’d have to gamble a hell of a lot just to get the chance.

Meanwhile, I still have to pay for my travel and hotel stay, whilst funding my ‘gamble’.

 

Fully agree.

You wouldn't go to Vegas expecting to spend nothing and make money then would you?

 

Firstly, we don’t know if it isn’t working. My argument is that it was working under McCall and we don’t yet know if it will be a success under Grayson (with his own group of players).

As for the 2nd pre-season, the players were on their jollies whilst all this was going on. It didn’t affect them. And Abbo/Rahic has already got their targets in mind, irrespective of whether the manager stayed or not.

Whilst I agree their 1st preseason wasn’t great and this won’t be either (if Simon does go), I don’t believe last summer was that bad

 

They have been quoted as saying recently they are here for the long term. I would like to know how much they anticipate this long term investment will cost, i'm presuming as successful businessmen they have a long term business plan that have been costed to include the development squad, pitch improvements, ground refurbishments etc. Any costing will be dependant on parameters out of their control such as player sales and cup runs. Have they calculated any suggested figures as to how much projected wage budgets will be in years to come? Looking that their plan is to develop and sell young players any manager coming in is going to be under pressure to play development squad, otherwise how can they develop to a point where someone wants to buy them? Bit different to Peterborough who target talent that has already developed to a level where they think they can make a potential profit in the short term.

 

No I wouldn’t and I don’t believe the owners do either. But at this stage, we are playing in the 2p arcades at Blackpool, not in Vegas.

Why? Because we need to fund our trip the right way. What’s the point of getting to Vegas and find you have nothing left to play with because you spent everything just to get there...!

 

Once again, I agree.

They do need to fund the trip that they have decided to embark on though.

 

But then to add your points above to other posts you have "liked" so I am assuming you have agreed with, if running a football club at this level is different to other businesses it takes time to appreciate that and learn from it. Sometimes you don't learn these lessons until you truly experience them.

A time comes when you have to take people's comments on face value. If the owners say they have learned then this pre-season will show us one way or the other. Its unhelpful when posters point back to what they see as errors prior to the time they said "they learned" because they were still learning then!

 

They are funding it, just not to the level you want. And until we get the Jackpot (hit it lucky) in Blackpool, we simply don’t have the money to get to Vegas.

As I said, are you really expecting us to blow it all in Blackpool HOPING to win enough to fund the trip to Vegas?

 

Well, we'll need someone in while Greg is recovering otherwise we won't sign anyone I guess!

 

Professionally speaking ? @Dennis .

In what capacity and industry ?

 

Well.... we don't really need them to agree. After all, when have they ever agreed before!! No change this time!

 

Isn’t the signing of players Mason’s job? Abbott is just the chief scout and I believe he has already provided his list of possible targets.

 

I suppose I was talking generally rather than specifically but yes, we wouldn't scout players and therefore wouldn't sign anyone.

 

Where have I said I want them to do anything?

I don't particularly care what they do with their money to be honest but they can't expect progress (and the additional income that will come into the club and the increased value of their asset) without doing something to cause that in the first place.

It's not about what I expect. It's about how they expect to achieve progress and how realistic it is.

 

I have the same thoughts as yourself, i'm not sure what their plan is and how they are going to make the figures work. As i've stated before if you are looking at a long term investment then look no further than Fleetwood. A state of the art training facility with bars and restaurants open all year round, with the aim of giving young talent a realistic route of making it in football with facilities and coaches to match. £8 million is a long term investment which i'm assuming, although i'm no financial expert, will be funded via long term borrowing. you can already see in how many young players get a start in their first team that it stands a chance of working, couple that with money paid out for the like of Vardy whilst in non league. I'm also pretty sure Fleetwood own their own ground.
Now with us it looks like long term this club has to be self sufficient by developing our own. Now Grayson has already questioned the training facilities and he's only been here two minutes. Tell you what it is, i'm looking for some sort of statement of intent from the owners, whether it be first team budget or development squad, at the moment all i've seen is them dipping their toe in the water. At some point you are going to have to jump in, football isn't for the faint hearted in business terms.

 

As fans were are impaitant and want things now ( human nature) the question that has to be asked is as new investers who have no past knowledge/experiance of running this new venture would take a completly different approach to the previous owners when their running of the club has shown to bare fruits ( year on year improvement) if was Edin & Stefan who said they had no plans to change what had obviously worked in the past their quote being " why would we" why did you is more to the point, we can only assume they knew better, well that went to plan.

 

We can’t “scout players” now though, regardless of who is in the position. Unless we are talking beach football with their kids whilst wearing flip-flops (wouldn’t be much different to what we’ve endured this season anyway)