Today finally settled it

just wondering now if the Scunny game could officially seal it. At least if it does, their manager will feel it almost as much as us. Sad how that decision has come to this possibility.​

 

If it was up to the likes of Park and Silver we'd still be giving Edin a chance to put things right. I think they call it continually backing the wrong horse.

 

To which I have said within this post. Communication from Rhodes and Rupp is absolutely imperative.

The silence is as worrying as our teams performance. At a time of real potential decline in sales, our leaders/owners are demonstrating a really poor hand.

 

What part of "if the fans don't buy tickets there'll be no club" (paraphrased) don't you understand?

 

One of them won't be here after the seasons end and the other one wishes he wasn't. Combine that with a manager who is here for eleven games. Its like the Bismarck going round in circles with a broken rudder.

 

For some it is easier to not challenge authority and to go along with the rhetoric they spout.

And what really is getting on my tits, is the free hit Stefan is getting in all this. The farce continues since Edin went, yet all goes quiet on challenging Stefan despite the dramatic collapse of our club. I want to hear from Stefan, our owner. I want to know his plans for OUR CLUB, direction, ideas but all I hear is silence.

Why?

 

All of it. But a "few" (parks word) supporters not purchasing season tickets is going to be the ultimate driver in this so called end of the club?

 

Very apt on choice of battleship. Like it.

 

Just as a matter of interest does anyone know how many have been sold so far

 

No pal. 1000 was the last I heard a few weeks ago.

 

If your hanging on in hope of hearing from Rhodes? You'll be there forever ! He's never fronted up ever to my knowledge ? For me he has culpability again with the mess we are once again mired in. It will outrage many I'm sure but he can clear off for me !

 

Thanks
Was hoping a few more than that had been sold
Today's result won't help much either

 

No more than 5 000 will be sold and that is being very optimistic. £150 is cheap, but it is like being a bag of shit for £1 and thinking you have a bargain. I'm out,

 

Ironically the younger supporters are one of the reasons that will put me off travelling to games in the future. Years ago and even more recently back in league two, it was the younger supporters who created the atmosphere and supported the club. There now seems to have inherited a new generation who are often pissed or off their heads, aggressive, moan and betrate players, argue and confront their own supporters or set bloody flares off! The latter shows there is zero consideration or probably knowledge of why this would be so much of an issue at our club. Perhaps this is a general reflection of a young generation, but I for one have no interest or enjoyment been around it.

A change in leadership behind the scenes and a return to a club with a clear and realistic strategy would naturally re-energise my love for this club. However going to games and being called a f**king pr*ck by a young idiot ain’t how I’m interested in spending my weekend and certainly not what I want to bring my little one into.

 

You've definitely raised a very valid point here. As you rightly say we have attracted even at this level a nucleus of young idiots who have already shown themselves to be trouble on our travels. Think Rochdales pyrotechnics for one instance ! Now you can Police that to a certain extent in League 1 because of the better standard grounds. But just imagine the same idiots rocking up at Solihull or some other ram shackled inadequacy ? Pissed up and drugged up !. I have seen drugs passed amongst these idiots at Yeovil and Accrington in recent times. A big lad turned up on the terrace at Accrington this season. Could barely climb the terrace he made it money was passed to him for a small package !. He then bungled his way back out to the exit as I watched him over the back of the terrace. He made his way out to a car ! So he paid to get in to deliver whatever ? Then cleared off (I thought "county lines"?). But back to the point a load of these idiots rocking up at some very basic grounds with less "policing" and it's going to be out of control. These idiots will be going think "we're Bradford City we'll do what we like !.

It happened with Guiseley in the National League and split the support. A bunch of young idiots attached themselves to the Club and travelled to games. Guiseley ordinarily would take 70-100 away but these kids started appearing pissed up and on something causing trouble. Some of them I have seen at City games home and away. They smashed the seating up at Mansfield in an FA Cup tie !.

But you raise a very valid point Away days for Bradford City next season are dreadful prospects which ever way you look at it. But add in this "toxic ingrediant" plus the frustrations that "we are too big to be there" and we"ll just do what we want and it's a recipe for trouble. It's a warning worth heeding !

 

See ya

 

If this is the cull of (mostly) cheap ticket part timers, then so be it and leave behind a crowd more positive in their efforts towards getting back up, no doubt if/when we do they’ll all be back.

 

True supporters will pay the going rate, if as you say it's a cull of the part timer cheap ticket brigade, so be it. The club will survive with it's core base of true support

 

100% agree. I don’t have a season ticket due to living south. However if i did live locally I would happily pay more than £149 for a ST, just as long as the experience (football aside - can’t ever guarantee that unfortunately!) was enjoyable. I don’t find this at VP on the limited games I do make, haven’t for years, and sadly this season especially I’ve not enjoyed the away games I’ve been to. Midweek away games are better, they seem to avoid the idiots we’ve seen at Rochdale, Walsall, Oxford.

 

Cheap ticket part timers? Come on you have read these boards and their are folk of 30 years that are suggesting they are out. I think we both know, your statement lacks a little truth ..

As for more positivity under lesser crowds... Don't remember it being like that under Lawrence, Todd, Jacko and the worst manager in my 33 years support, John Docherty to name a few. Many a moan and criticism within those times ....