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Rupp & Sparks Out?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by JonButterfield, Nov 12, 2023.

  1. NorthernMonkey

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    And of course Leicester, who didn't have points deducted but were rescued after administration and went on to win the PL.
     
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  2. Bantamsteve

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    Spot on
    I wouldn't mind betting that football men/DOF have been involved in the rise of those clubs
    We are essentially selling the brand Bradford City whilst the team staggers about trying to avoid relegation/avoid defeats to Sutton Barrow etc we have no experienced football men in the higher eschallons so basically all we are doing is selling a brand that's on its arse
    Both Rupp and Sparks (who is praised by some) for keeping us self sustaining surely must realise this is never going to continue whilst having no success on the pitch that's NOT sustainable THEN WHAT
    It's incredulous to think that Rupp and his advisors can't/won't see this at the minute he still has a choice sort it out personnel wise with a little investment or sell it the day is rapidly approaching when that option will disappear
    A few wins on the pitch may pacify the hard of thinking but it's basically papering over the cracks
     
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  3. Park bantam

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    How do you know how much he wants for the club? It has never been revealed anywhere anything said on here is pure guesswork.
     
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  7. Bronco

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    So they bottled it, which isn't a bad thing it would have been worse if they had taken the job thinking they could do it only for us fans to be let down once more, we need a manager who is 100% committed.
     
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  8. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    Hopefully GA will prove them wrong.
     
  9. Interested Bystander

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    Bottled it? or maybe
    "When you speak to a club, I think you're trying to understand where they are today and where they want to go.
    "Then once you know the starting point and the destination, you can then decide whether or not you've got the skill set to put those stepping stones in place.
    "These decisions are huge not just for your family but also for the football club. So, you have to make sure you have the right information to make a decision for the benefit of everyone.

    "We just felt it wasn't quite right at the time."


    No one could give them answers
     
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  10. Onside

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    That is because we don’t have sustainable plan!
     
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    With managers falling over themselves for any opportunity of one of the 92 possible vacancies it seems very surprising that the Cowleys initial interest seemed to fall apart actually AFTER meeting with the club officials. Its alright some saying it doesn't matter now but it does, it raises questions as to what was said, or maybe not said that caused them to back out. Because it clear they were our number one target, also the dubious messages that seemed to have been spread about the knock back was for 'family' reasons when it now turns out it was nothing of the sort.
    Utter shambles as usual.
     
  12. Onside

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    We should not be in this mess with managers reversing out the door due to lack of a credible plan. No amount of gloss or double speak and lies will paper over that they turned US down. How many more? Put that together with Deadly Derek contributions and it is not looking good at all
     
  13. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    A club with a plan. 30:00 onwards about the planning for the squad and the recruitment process.
    Quality over quantity.
    Manager doesn't pick the players just coaches them. Sat in the top 3 with the 10th biggest budget.

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  14. Rogered Tart

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    We should have offered Derek the job a second time just to hear his reasons for turning us down - that would have been eye-opening!
     
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    There is no reason why Graham Alexander can't make a success of it at Valley Parade, there are clubs in this division and league 1 that have done far better than us with far less resources. What these clubs tend to have though is a vision to get the best out of those limitations by having everyone singing off the same hymn sheet. Something we haven't done for a fair few years.
     
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    The Cowleys must be stupid. We are the perfect club for them. Don't they listen to @ROKERITE@ROKERITE
     
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    Haven't had chance to watch this yet, but could make for an interesting hour. Simon Wilson, Stockports Sporting Director - and for those wanting his background;
    • Performance Analyst at Southampton
    • Head of Performance Analysis at Man City
    • Director of Football Services for the City Group
    • Chief Football Officer at Sunderland
    • 2018 he started a football consultancy working with top flight clubs and organisations including The Premier League, UEFA, AFC Ajax, FC Copenhagen, Sparta Prague, Levski Sofia and Leicester City.
    This is what we're competing with.

     
  19. JonButterfield

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    100 %.

    I'm sure Phil Parkinson left for completely different reasons, but to have had Derek Adams and now a manager that turned us down tell us all the same thing?

    That's something very few people can or should ignore.
     
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    You can only bullshit for so long before people see right through you. Sparks had the advantage of being an unknown with fresh ideas when he took the role. As in any industry, the longer you fail, the more people see that you don't know what you're doing and the soundbites sound more ridiculous. The Cowleys won't be the first to run a mile.
     

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