Poison Chalice

Gary Bowyer and Derek Adams know L2 football and have proven records. Both had the backing of the club....more than the majority of L2 clubs anyway. Rhodes was the CEO when they were in charge. I dont disagree with the uninterested owner comment btw.

Something is amiss at this club because we seem to have exhausted almost every type of manager now.

 

Neither Bowyer or Adams were backed to anything like the extent Hughes has been.

 

Both had top 6 budgets in this division. But I dont disagree they were as backed as Hughes. That said Hughes did far better than both anyway - despite our short comings last season.

Bowyer went into the season with Vaughan and Doyle as his strike force. We know how shite they were for us and how great they were elsewhere.

Adams brought in alot of duds, couldnt get a tune out of his lovechild Songo and Cook was shite under him as well.

 

I’d bet Bowyer was, Doyle, Vaughan and Donaldson was the best strike force we’ve had down here and he made a total hash of it. The cost cutting started during Covid, so yes I imagine Adams had the lowest budget by far. All 3 have failed however regardless of which way you look at it and all are experienced managers. There seems to be more wrong at the club than just the manager.

 

Fair point. And yes, our problems go deeper and higher than the manager.

 

QAnon is alive and kicking , not in downtown Trump land, but Bradford.

 

Can't see much evidence that Songo'o is great

 

Weren't you promising to go away on another thread ?

 

F.O. man! I am depressed enough about the club at the moment, don't need you constantly posting the obvious and reminding us what we already know. Get a life lad

 

This one is actually really easy.

Here are some of the main reasons a player who looks garbage here might look great elsewhere:

1) We signed them, but they don't fit our tactics
2) We signed them, but because of the person playing next to them, they don't get to just do whatever it is they're good at (ie, imbalanced partnerships)
3) We signed them, but until we told them they weren't good enough, they didn't really have the fire to prove themselves
4) We signed them, but they didn't really feel we were their 'last chance'
5) We signed them, but played them while they were injured and this either hampered form or led to longer term injuries
6) We signed them, and they were always a good player, but they just had someone ahead of them who was also a good player

I can think of people to fit every single one of those categories.

 

In my opinion we sign too many untried kids from the likes of Villa, WBA, Burnley etc and in the main they are not up to it.
Look at Costelloe, Bola, Nevers, Oyegoke, Afoka, Tulloch etc all pretty much ineffective.
I exclude Wright and Banks, the only two who showed any promise. Even Pierira (sic) faded after looking the part.

Seasoned pro's - not over the hill types, who have something to prove and fit into our style of play are the ones to loan.
When I see the likes of Steven Fletcher etc signing for Wrexham when Mullin is out, I get a little envious - and they even had Palmer in their squad!

We just seem to sign any kid going as long as he's from some Premiership under 12's side.
Come on Gent, finger out!

 

Totally agree. Why can’t we use our own very talented kids. This puts them in the shop window. The PL hoover up every kid who shows any talent, then shove them out to the lower leagues.