Non-scoring Strikers

He needs to start coming up different now before we hit the playoffs should we get there ...........if we aint gonna score or more importantly dont look like scoring which seems to be the norm now then simply set us up to be solid

 

I actually think they are sadly a lot worse than average ..............i mean even the average strikers will get you the odd goal .........these lot simply dont

Wasnt for Wrights input then we would be in big bother and that sums up our forwards if hes the one outscoring them

 

Probably talks towards the aims at the start of the season. If you look at Humps & Swan as the main 2 then Kav and Cook as back ups, you'd hope if they can get 20 between them as a minimum that will keep you in L1....... but when we got to Jan and GA didnt fancy Cook in this system in L1 and Kav wasn't up to scratch, but we were challenging by being a tight unit and having a lot of 1 goal games go our way, we needed in Jan that next level up striker. We needed someone who can either make those tight games a little easier or bring us back when down, but gambling that Wheatley will click and Mullin will cause bother wasn't at all what we needed in hindsight.

Feels like we took on far too many unfit gambles in Jan and hoped it would click.

 

Humps should have never been signed as a striker and the powers that be should have known that ........... like you say hindsight but me personally it never looked like the club with its late recruitment and its maybe signing never took the chance of promotion seriously ................maybe GAs continuing to use the same tactics away from home is having a pop at the clubs lack of ambition.
I cannot see him being over the moon with what was brought in

 

I rather like our current "style" , and using Wilson when needed appears to be working.

 

Bit of luck the Hammers,Spurs and Forest get there acts together or its another summer of mong Leeds @?#& going on about great they are

 

Although his stats are distorted by his current form, I'm glad he's peaking at the right time. The thing is we could do with another couple of players hitting the same current form as him, to give us the best chance of doing something this season. With the keeper and defence suddenly coughing up goal conceding errors every match, it's imperative we find the net more than once in a game.

 

the last game I saw we had tonnes of chances.... my impression is they cant hit a barn door..... Orient Lad can.. Swindon lads can, Cardiff lad can.... dunno?

 

We signed rubbish strikers this season. Simples

 

Are traditional scoring strikers getting to be a thing of the past?

Watching England last night without Kane, and they could still be playing now without looking like scoring. Foden was a fish out of water playing as a 'false nine' and the likes of Solanke are just garbage

 

Other eras aside, because this has been an ongoing problem at this club - I can only think of Charlie Wyke, Andy Cook and a honorable mention to Lee Novak for actual decent strikers we have have had on the books this last decade since Rupp came in.

Collecting bang average strikers and hoping one comes good has happened time and time again. We need quality, not quantity.

It simply isn't good enough.

 

Not just yet, but they are few and far between because teams only play with one.

How many top class strikers are currently on the planet? I can name on one hand - Kane, Haaland, Alvarez, Martinez and probably someone ive forgotten. Go back a decade ago and I would need my fingers and toes. Go back two decades and I would need your fingers and toes.

 

Wingers and traditional strikers dying out means more and more football games will become more like a tippy tappy affair as exciting as watching chess, like we often see in the Premier League nowadays.

 

I watched a video a few weeks back going through this trend and it's more of a wider football issue. They blamed it on the "Pep-ism" of football over the last 10 years, with all clubs wanting to copy what brought success at City. So academies phase out finding fast lads and turning them into direct wingers, they are instead either inside players if they are good on the ball or wing backs if they are better at beating a man over the last few years. If you are good on the ball as a teen now, you aren't playing in the 10 like you were 20 years ago, they want you either in defensive midfield or a centre back, because you'll be on the ball more. Top English academies are producing a lot of ball playing defenders and a lot of attacking midfielders, but not a lot that would be viewed as out of the box types or maverick types too often anymore, so the ones that do actually show a bit of something extra get over blown.

It's just a way the games gone I think. Look at the passing stats 10 years ago in the PL, the top passer was Fabregas, Andrew Surman, Ozil and Aaron Ramsey were the top passers in the top league. Fabregas with 2,829 was a mile ahead of the rest but Surman, Ozil and Ramsey were all around the 2,200 passes all season mark. This season still has 7 or 8 games to go in the PL and the two top passers have already gone past the 2,200 mark. The most passes this season are from Van Dijk (2,340), Lewis Dunk (2,216), Trevoh Chalobah (2,109) and Joachim Anderson (2,011). Elliott Anderson is the only midfielder to break 2,000 passes already this season. Games changed from midfielders seeing the most ball and wanting to get strikers in on goal, to defences passing it between themselves and waiting for gaps. Strikers are feeding on scraps more than ever before.

If you look at English strikers under the age of 23 in the PL this season, Liam Delap has the most minutes at 791 so far this season, the next best is Dane Scarlett who managed 7 whole minutes for Spurs this season. Young strikers just aren't getting gametime anymore at the top level. There's a few in the Champ getting minutes but i cant see many who are loaned out, the strikers are on the books of these clubs. It's like forwards these days are seen to be moved on down the pyramid to develop, rather than top clubs wanting that next level of forward on their own books.

 

Correct. Its all about keeping possession and players are absolutely shit scared of taking a man on and losing the ball. Its a virus within the game.

I absolutely loathe watching Man City because thats all they do, tippy tappy and teams sat back soaking it up.