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Jake Young

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rcbantam, Nov 20, 2023.

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Will we see Jake young PLAY in a city shirt

  1. Yes before the transfer window ends

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  2. Yes after the transfer window ends

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  3. No

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  4. Who's Jake young

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  1. JonButterfield

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    Al-Hamadi is worth a potential £2 million because a Championship side who look like they might get promoted to the Premier League are interested in him.

    The reason Young isn't worth anything like that is because the clubs looking at him include Exeter, Port Vale, Carlisle, and maybe Derby, none of whom seem to want to pay anything like that.

    The only way Young will be worth more is if he stays and keeps scoring, thus attracting interest from a club that isn't either a skint or small League One team.

    I think some people look at it as "who is significantly better than the other", but that's not how transfer values work.

    Transfer values work based on which clubs are interested, how much money they have, and how badly they want a player.

    Talking about Jake Young being worth as much as Ali Al Hamadi is utterly ridiculous unless a comparable team wants him.

    Anyone heard about Leeds having a sniff? Southampton? Leicester?

    No?

    Okay then. We either sell to those who actually want him for a price they can afford, or we don't sell.
     
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  2. borderlescott

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    Rupp would be a bit silly to let things go that far. There is no need to put the club in admin when there are interested parties in the club (see Sparks pieces in T n A).

    His asking price is pricing people out of firming up interest.

    him and his former sidekick have ruined the club and taken it from on the verge of the championship to 16th in League 2. He’s out of his depth and needs to walk away. Needs to accept the regression is on his watch otherwise fan revolt this summer will drive him out.

    once ST sales slump 50% his club is worth a lot less than it is now, and people are fed up. He should take the money being offered now before the club becomes worthless, and will return even less to him at the end of a period in administration.
     
  3. bailiff bridge bantam

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    The irony of some taking the piss out of RS and his idiotic “won’t accept mediocrity” quote, but then more than willing to let one of the few assets we have go for an amount many would class as
    “mediocre”.
     
  4. bantam65

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    Genuine question.
    Do German financial laws allow him to write it off as a tax loss?
     
  5. Kevin1954

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    Where have BCAFC ever said we as a club have put a £200,000 valuation on Young..? It’s all from here originating on twatter most likely. Nobody knows so why are we repeatedly “suggesting” that is a figure likely being asked? Some people apply common sense logic, some people apply FM 2024 .
    Hes clearly far and away more than that has two or three bids have been refused in the clubs eyes. So why repeat it, I just don’t understand? And for the record he is NOWHERE near the footballing value of AA-H of Wimbledon. The number of clubs offering low value bids that aren't exactly beating a path to VP proves it…..
     
  6. Kevin1954

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    Probably , all Western countries seem to have the ability. Didnt such schemes make Trump a very rich fraud?

    Google

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    In Germany, all capital gains realized after the holding period has elapsed are tax-free. Investors can offset capital gains and capital losses recorded during a given year on their tax return.
     
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  7. andyc

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    I am not certain, but he is a business man and will have looked at every scenario.
    I do with my business, after all, we are all in it not to lose money.
     
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  8. Park bantam

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    He would definitely sell if he got the right offer. At least one potential new owner came to a financial agreement. If people want to do something to hasten things they should find someone to speak to him like they did before over Rahic and persuade him to put the club on the market officially.
     
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  9. andyc

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    Totally agree Park, either the club is for sale, or it isn't, all this Chinese whispers is getting us nowhere fast.
    Don't worry, i have my euromillions ticket for tonight, Just watch me blow close to £20 million on Monday morning.
    I am certainly daft enough when it comes to City.
     
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  10. bailiff bridge bantam

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    City haven’t and I never said they did.
    Certain posters on here have said they are more than happy to take 200k.

    I don’t believe for one minute he’s worth anything like what Al-Hamadi is reportedly going for.

    I do however think that he’s worth more than 200k.
    It’s the hardest job in football and teams pay a premium for that skill.

    I’m very much with what appears to be the clubs stance that they have a value (which nobody knows) and they stick to it.
    If he goes we’ll never know the amount but the people in power will.

    If they buckle and just take owt to get rid then that’s on their conscience.

    Only one more week of this conjecture left and then we can get back on with our city supporting lives (with or without Young)
     
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  11. Park bantam

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    A player is only worth what any potential buyer is prepared to pay but at the moment it seems only lower end league one teams are interested and they either don’t value him anywhere near what City do or they can’t afford it. So either city will have to sell well below the asking price are keep at least until the summer and hope he keeps scoring
     
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  12. JonButterfield

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    No one is saying we have to sell him lol

    What's being made clear is we aren't getting fantasy land seven figure pie in the sky amounts from Exeter.

    Who knows, maybe someone will come in at the last minute, but it won't be for what Al Hamadi is going for

    What we should have done was say 'its a million by Saturday or he's not going anywhere, end of discussion', he's our player, we can absolutely do that.

    But we could have done that last week.
     
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  13. Dennis

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    Highly unlikely! I'm no expert on German tax law but it's very unusual for any tax authority to allow a tax write off against profits in their jurisdiction where the loss has been generated in a different jurisdiction. Had Rupp been making profits in the UK and been liable for tax in the UK, it would be a very different situation.
     
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  14. bailiff bridge bantam

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    I’ve said all along that the club must stick to its guns and if their asking price isn’t met then he stays.
    If they buckle then we might as well just pack it in.

    If he stays it’s up to GA to get the best out of him

    He’s only 22.
    He has a decent career in front of him if he wants to make something of it..
     
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  15. andyc

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    Does Rupp take any directors dividends and would this be taxed here or in Germany, we all know how some of these business men move monies to avoid taxation.
     
  16. Dennis

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    I've no idea how much any club would be willing to pay for a particular player So in my head, I turn it around. If we were in the market for a young striker who was learning his trade but had already had a successful first half of the season on loan at a different club, would we be willing to pay as much as £0.5mill for him? I couldn't imagine that happening at all. If the asking price were lower, I could imagine it.
     
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    Dividends would be taxed here I believe, and I don't think I've ever seen anything on the accounts relating to dividends being paid but they're not exactly the most transparent accounts ever submitted to companies house
     
  18. Dennis

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    There's nothing I've spotted to suggest that he takes any dividends. Didn't Sparks confirm that some time last year?
     
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  19. andyc

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    So doing it just for the love of all things Bradford City.
    He may well be an honourable guy. Money talks though.
     
  20. Petrov

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    Not sure if you are talking about Rupp or Young here.
     

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