How to encourage Rupp to sell the Club

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if we go up then no, objective has been achieved.

the problem is of course he trusts the likes of sparks with key decisions.

a silent investor isn’t an impossible working model but the CEO must be competent

 

We go up we will be straight back down

 

Matchday time . Of course anyone can hold an opinion.

 

f we flukes promotion I think we would have the momentum bounce and be safely top half, parkys team was 7th and only git promoted through a run of games which created momentum and we were good once promoted.

 

On current performances there is no comparison whatsoever with our current team and the team of 2012/2013. Most of our current team with 2 or 3 exceptions would not have been in a Parky squad.

 

yet we are arguably in a better position than we were this time ️ f the season under PP

 

Put it this way Benjamin .

. If someone doesn’t want to renew a season ticket, a choice I made after 30+ years ,that’s their business, but if the are doing it on the only on basis that it will “force” the owner , no matter who it is, to sell cheaply then sorry mate, they are wildly wrong imho.

Let’s perhaps explore I believe it won’t.

The owner doesn’t have loans on his “ speculative investment” as far as I can tell.

There are no loans that purchased the club in the first instance as far as is known, leveraged against club funds ( Thankfully) unlike the Glazier spivs , therefore he’s under no pressure from finance houses .

His personal wealth precludes any need to sell at a loss. He will write the loss off down to “ experience “ and maybe even use the German tax system to alleviate tax liabilities.

If you can explain why and critically HOW, it would work without putting the club, NOT RUPP, in severe financial jeopardy, please share your thoughts. Remember the “club” has more than substantial liabilities , certainly over the next 3-4 years and no assets of value we can call on to sell.

Have a stab.

 

Here’s another idea. Rupp, having spent 6m to buy a club in the upper echelons of league one in 2016, agrees to sell it for a similar amount 8 years later having taken it continually backward, eroding attendances, league standing and quality of the ‘product on offer’, having been forced to do so in the face of supporter unrest and revenue reduction through ticket sale reduction and in the face of ridiculous expectations that he should sell for a higher price than he bought it for, rather than simply sitting on the club he owns with disinterest from several hundred miles away.

 

Encouraged by a friend I invested £2000 in crypto whilst the market was good.
It soon fell away and I saw my investment drop to £1000.
Chasing the losses I invested a further £1000 but things were still stagnant. I fell out with my friend.

A few years later there was a brief pick up in the market and my investment reached break even and I could have cashed out.
I chose not to feeling the timing wasn’t right and I could achieve more but didn’t want to invest any further monies.
I’m currently holding this crypto at a 50% loss hoping one day it might pick up again.
All the while my wife is wittering daily that we need a new kitchen and the house needs decorating, threatening to leave me.

What should I do?
1. Sell the crypto for a loss? (I’m a proud man and need to save face amongst friends / family / businessmen.

2. Hold on hoping for my investment back whilst accepting there is a risk of losing it all?

 

How would that would force him to sell without exposing the “ business/ club “ to severe financial pressure, Faithful?

Remember, wanting to sell is not the same as having to sell.I think we accept he doesn’t need the money so how does it “ force” him to sell?

Please don’t assume like some misguidedly have , that my pushback on this “ plan” is somehow defending our owner. The opposite applies . The plan’s main flaw is it puts OUR club at financial risk , not the owner. I couldn’t give a crap about him tbh.

I don’t honestly have a solution, but in my head this so called “plan” , is not the way to go without enforcing the clubs rapid decline. Many of us have seen these grand ideas before and where did it get us? Two administrations , fly by night speculators , local businessmen who ALWAYS want their money back by linking “ investment” to loading the club with loan debt. All great people with great intentions ? There is no point in listing them , we know who they are.

A sorry state of affairs I agree Faithful .

 

If that squad hadnt had to deal with Wembley cup runs then we would have walked that league that season and i put money on thatvleague was stronger to even compare the two is madness

 

I don’t have a problem and neither does anyone one else it seems, but hitting the club isn’t the way to go imho.

In direct answer to your question…Not if two if three thousand ride off into the sunset then no, it’s part of the ebb and flow of season ticket sales anyway. However IF EVERY season ticket holder participates then what.?

Does this so called plan involve who can and can’t renew to mitigate any financial damage which it seems you would readily accept would happen ? And yes relegation through a lack of funds etc could ensue, long term. I won’t list again all the clubs who are still sat in the NL because they had no money to recruit decent players to starve off relegation in the first place!

Nothing offered so far is a viable financial solution , as I have said quite a few times , if he doesn’t need the money how is he being forced to sell? If his investment , more like £8m , but hey that’s by the by, is written off against one of his businesses or however he’s structured the initial investment can be massaged into the German tax system he won’t give a toss. That’s our problem Dennis.

1) What are acceptable financial losses , year on year , you/ we would be happy with?

2) Would we all be happy with a much reduced playing budget which would automatically follow as a consequence at the guaranteed outgoings of paying for rent and upkeep of VP?

Has anyone really thought this through based on , he cannot be forced sell for financial reasons which in life is the main driver, let’s be honest.

A conundrum for sure but this plan has too many risks and unanswered questions for me. I listed 2 above?

 

Number one priority is keeping the wife happy. Get a bank loan and get her that new kitchen she pines for.

 

The best way to "force" him to sell is by giving him a decent offer and nobody's doing that so what's the point in even discussing it

 

We obviously need a willing buyer before Rupp can sell, as he has to sell to someone, and due to confidentiality agreements etc, prospective takeover information wouldn’t make it into the public domain.

but that is what we need leaking. A credible buyer who has made a fair offer to buy the club. Then the fans can sign a petition to say they’re not renewing STs unless he accepts the offer and agrees to sell up.

Its all very awkward, as we don’t want off the field distractions effecting the players on the pitch…..so we close our eyes, pretend all is well, and hope we stumble upon that magical promotion that makes everything better….for a while.

Rupp is holding out for a price no one is seemingly willing to pay, despite us languishing in a division lower than when he took over.

 

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