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All very complicated rod, had forest equalised Barnsley would have stayed up. Burton were staying up whilst both were drawing.

 

Success in a sport such as football where there are so many things beyond your control needs a big slice of luck.The stats will more than likely show that Bolton haven't scored two goals in the last couple of minutes of a match all season, its one of those things that happens once in a generation. They just happened to do it in the most important game of the season. I'm not knocking Parky, good luck to the hoofball merchant, It was certainly on his side.

 

Ha ha have they actually scored three in any other game ? Probably not.

 

How many goals did the old Manchester United score in Fergie time.was that luck. The fact is they fashioned a win from the jaws of defeat . As for hoofball merchant bring it back to quell the boredom of the last two years

 

Fergies luck was his Fa cup run very early in his Man Utd career, he was nearly out of a job before he had started his illustrious career.
So you were bored when we went unbeaten at home last season and reached a playoff final at Wembley? I can't take you seriously anymore.

 

I was bored with all the draws and wasn’t you bored with 9 home losses this season

 

This season i agree has been dull, but there has been mitigating circumstances, losing our best players and nit replacing then, interference from above etc.

 

Why do people never talk about expectations and targets when they're judging a league position?

In what world for example is an 11th placed league one finish not a good season for a team like Colchester?

Comparing McCall's and Parkinson's positions in league one like you have donw completely ignores the starting positions and the direction of travel.

 

Have I completely ignored the starting positions?

Parkinson got us promoted into L1 and then improved us year on year, finishing as PO semi-finalists.

McCall took over with just 8 professional players on our books and took us 1 step closer. So, it could be argued, more progress.

Nobody can tell how this season would have finished had he been backed, as Parkinson had been under Rhodes/Lawn.

As for Colchester, I have no idea what they class as ‘success’ or indeed what resources they gave their managers. However, Steve Wignall led them into (equivalent to) League1 and left the following season saying he had taken them as far as he could. His replacement Mick Wadsworth left just 8mths later. Steve Whitton took over and finished 18th, 17th and 15th. He was sacked the following season when the chairman released his statement, “It has been self-evident over the past 12 months that results have been disappointing. Football is showbusiness and our gates have been drifting because of our results."

Seems their ambitions were higher than mid-table finishes and season on season progress afterall.

 

The fact you've just noted a load of occasions where Colchester finished lower probably should tell you that top half of league one is a good season for them.

Starting with 8 professional players isn't that much of a big deal. We probably started this year with a similar amount of players signed up. Given the relatively short term nature of the contracts at this level and prevalent use of the loan market it's probably a similar position at most clubs most of the time.

I'm not quite sure what you mean about the backing PP got from Lawn and Rhodes. He just got to spend what he earned just like McCall.

It could be argued that we did progress in the first season. Getting to the same league position and being beat by the same team in the play offs does indicate that progress was minimal at best though. Think we'd struggle to say we progressed this year though?

 

At one point this season, back in December, we had more points at that stage than the previous one. As for PP only spending what he earned, that is crap. We often allowed budget to be increased on the proviso that we would sell a player or need a cup run the following season.

When McCall needed team strengthening in January, it just didn’t happen. That isn’t backing him, regardless of what your blinkered view is.

We aren’t going to agree (yet again), so we should just move on

 

It's not crap is it. You don't spend all your money on day one of the season! As he earned the money through either developing players for sale or through cup runs then he got that extra income to spend. Zero of the money during Parkinson's time came from being backed by Lawn or Rhodes. ZERO!

I actually agree that we should have got more in early during January although I also acknowledge it's a difficult time to buy true quality. There's nothing blinkered about it.

I don't see why some random point in December would be particularly important though?

 

I tell you what if Parky has been given a 250k striker in January he would have though all his Christmases has come at once

 

The random point in January was in reference to your claim that there was no evidence that this season wouldn’t have finished better than last season. I said we were on target until the blip kicked in.

And you are wrong regarding budget. PP was backed in January transfer windows AND also had the luxury of the Emergency Loans window. To suggest Lawn/Rhodes only backed PP from self-funds is mischievous at best.
Do you not still hear the ‘earworm’ of Lawn talking about deficits? Yes, PP got the money back for the owners due to cup runs and transfers, but it was given to him up front (speculate to accumulate).

McCall wasn’t given that luxury.
Anyway, as I said..... I’m out.!!!!

 

Aaron Mclean?

 

Deficit is in terms of budget over the whole season. It's then to be equalised through the money earned during that year. It wasn't given to him on the first day of the season because it isn't spent all in one lump sum.

Like I said not spent on day one. Not one pound of the progress during PP's years came from the pocket of Lawn and Rhodes.

The random point in December doesn't prove anything either way does it. It has no relevance at all. We were on target until we weren't.

 

We swapped Cole for proctor and sold the midfielder who’s name escapes me to Chesterfield. Stuart got Wyke

 

No one knows how much he cost and we had just sold the best striker I. The league

 

Stuart ‘swapped’ Hanson for Wyke. Let’s play with the same rules Park...!

And I’m assuming you are referring to the all-influential Gary Liddle? And this board sold Clarke from McCall’s squad. Your point is?

 

Does it really matter when the goals were scored the resilt was Bolton 3 Forset 2, he got the result he and his club needed to stay in the Championdhip, some on here were gloating about the abuse Parky was recieving at Burton, I bet those same Bolton fans were creaming themselves and singing Parkys voice at the end of the game yesterday, fickle just like most football fans.