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Cost of Living Crisis

Discussion in 'General Chat - No political posts' started by YungNath, Jul 28, 2022.

  1. trevor

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    Well we now know where the money for the tax cuts for the super rich is to come from as for the second year running they are going to increase pensions etc by much less than inflation despite promises to protect pensions and pay the rate of inflation.

    They did the same last year when promising to pay the triple lock of inflation at 8% they only increased pensions by 3.1% a cut of 5% looks like more of the same with pensions paying for tax cuts for the wealthy by Truss
     
  2. Bronco

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    I'm sure pensioners will take that into account at the next General Election.
     
  3. Rogered Tart

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    I'm not sure why folk can't actually see how the rich get richer every single year. Every penny their wealth goes up has to be squeezed out of people with no choice.but to pay it. It's why their system dictates that you have to work longer every year before you actually start earning for yourself and not paying the taxman. Its why wages never realistically go up with inflation, why stealth taxes are brought in through Westminsters back doors. Why parking charges go up every year etc, all chipping away at the masses.so the rich become even wealthier.
     
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  4. YungNath

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    Loads of pension funds nearly going insolvent9 and 41% of new mortgage deals being pulled from the market had nothing to do with covid or the cost of living borrowing. we weren't screwed anyway at all. 30 year gitl yields didn't jump like 2% in relation to any of that, this was only all after the tax cutting crap. Now we are screwed.

    Mate, your savings from the tax cuts are going to be wiped out by the other effects of the budget so why are you so wedded to them?
     
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  5. Aaron Baker

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    Of course it does. Its all to do with inflation, borrowing and interest. Mortgage companies couldn't care what tax rates are, in fact people having more money in the pocket is clearly better for them

    Because we've lived through an era where the answer is always to give the government more money and they don't spend it well. Giving money to the people who earn it is philosophically a good thing.
     
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  6. YungNath

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    It demonstrably isn't. 41% of deals got pulled after the budget, not before. They also don't know what deals to offer based on volatility in the currency markets. And because the pound is so weak people will have a shit load less money, because it makes imports more expensive, and given we have a fairly concerning trade deficit as it is, 1p off income tax won't matter shit to anyone, if it ever did anyway if we are paying more for everything.

    No we haven't haha what era was that? we've had 12 years of real terms cuts to everything including taxes. It's ideology and frankly discredited at that.
     
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  7. Aaron Baker

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    And the budget confirmed the borrowing. The pound is "weak" because of borrowing, inflation and interest and because every currency is weak against the dollar. Not because income tax is 19% rather than 20%

    I don't think we have. There's been a hell of a lot of cuts to some services but the tax burden in the highest it's ever been in my lifetime. We're getting bad value for money from our taxes.

    From the IFS.....

    "While the tax reductions announced in this budget are substantial, their impact is only forecast to return the UK tax burden to 2021-22 levels – reflecting the large increases in the tax burden previously forecast for the coming years. This will mean a tax burden that remains at its highest sustained level since the 1950A"
     
  8. YungNath

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    The pound is weak because literally nobody has the slightest shred of confidence in what these idiots are doing. markets are based on confidence.

    so you lived in space prior to 2021 then?
     
  9. YungNath

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    here are the lines tory mps are being issued with for media rounds in the next few days, saves you wasting time being lied to
     
  10. bantamlad92

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    Utter made up nonsense.

    People's lives only seem to matter as long as it suits certain political agendas.
     
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  11. Edin Nowhere

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    Liz Truss was as convincing this morning on the media rounds as Harry Maguire has been has recently been at center back for England.

    She seems done for before she has even started, a chancer without a plan who found herself at the top.

    I said the Tories needed a clean break but the MPs put forward 2 MPs who were front and centre as the choices and boy it that being exposed.

    I think the best thing I have seen these who thing described as is a "Trussterfuck".
     
  12. Craven Cottager

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  13. Clity

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    Its 170bn for UK energy companies not 170bn globally.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/20862627.uk-energy-companies-make-170bn-excess-profits-leaked-analysis-reveals/

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-30/uk-predicts-up-to-170-billion-excess-profits-for-energy-firms

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/uk-gas-electricity-industry-may-make-170-bln-pounds-excess-profits-bbg-2022-08-30/

    Its also not total profits its excess profits.
     
  14. Clity

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    Putin has a massive interest in Moldova its called Transnistria - a place no different to Crimea, Luhansk and Donbas. In the early days of the war he moved his forces to try create a land border with Moldova. Based on previous behaviour its fir to say that moldova was next. He thought Ukraine would just fall within days as in Georgia but was wrong.

    It seems to me that you want to blame the higher costs you face on putins war and the fact we are spending to defend him and issuing sanctions which costs you money. Instead of blaming the torys for years of economic mis management.

    Either that or your a russian sympathiser.
     
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  15. Rogered Tart

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    It's never about people's lives, that's just a smokescreen. It's about control and power. I'm not happy about the loss of needless lives from a war that neither side can truly win but this is mere collateral damage.
     
  16. YungNath

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  18. trevor

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    She will be getting her hair and make up done next week to resemble Thatcher
     
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  19. Storck

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    We have just had a change, unfortunately for the worse
     
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  20. Storck

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    They will probably have forgotten
     
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