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The Voice - Match preview Bradford City vs Harrogate Town Thursday 29 December @ 7:45pm

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by The Voice, Dec 27, 2022.

  1. Ulysses S Grant

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    The offside rule might have changed, but surely if it come off the keeper he's no longer offside. Otherwise how can a penalty taker be onside when the keeper saves but offside if he puts it in off the post ?
     
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  2. vin weasel

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    It amuses me that when Gilliead plays anything above tosh, some think he should be MOTM.
    Halliday, Crichlow, Wright and Platt all contributed more to us winning this one imo.
     
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  3. vin weasel

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    Wright offside for his follow up yet Harrogate's big chance in the game and he was onside!!??
    More inept officiating that might have undone us.
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  4. andyc

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    Good point general Grant. thought the keeping pushing the ball out played the attacker onside , or as you say he would be offside at a penalty if saved.
     
  5. Smartmart

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    Thought it was two mid table sides grappling yesterday. Sutton added energy and the ability to break from midfield which is something neither gilly or Smallwood offer.
    Oliver was an improvement on what cook offered at Carlisle.
    It was a better performance than in Cumbria but we remain some way off on that form.
    I don’t see what goal output or creativity Chapman brings. Need Walker back and tiring as soon as poss.
     
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  6. Bantam-in-Greece

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    When Crichlow shot, Wright was in an onside position (marginally).
    Crichlow shoots, the 'keeper parries and by this time Wright has followed up (as all good strikers should do), he then slots in the rebound.
    Perfectly a good goal.
     
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    I don't think it would be disallowed for offside off the post but because no-one else has touched the ball since they took the kick, making it technically a pass to themself
     
  8. Dennis

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    That's not true. A goalkeeper parrying the ball does not play anybody onside. It's the fact that the penalty taker is always behind the ball that rules him onside.

    In the case of the Wright situation, it was his position at the time when the ball was kicked (in this case by Crichlow) which determines whether Wright was onside or not. When the ball was kicked, he had to be either behind the ball (he wasn't) or have 2 opponents between him and the goal line for him to be onside. It has nothing to do with the save by the gk.
     
  9. Tennesseebantam

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    USG - the pk rebounding off the post to the kicker is not offside. The offense is playing a ball twice before any other player has touched it.
     
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    Also, isn’t the rule on offside that a ball rebounding into play from a save by the goalkeeper does not change the the offside call if it goes to a player who was in an offside position when the ball was originally played.
    It’s a bit early here and tbh, I’m not sure if that’s FIFA rules or just our odd rules at high school level over here.
     
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    When a penalty is taken or indeed if a player is through on goal and the ball comes back to him off the keeper,he is not in an offside position. However in the case of Wright he was ,in the linesman’s opinion slightly offside when Critchlow shot so as soon as Wright becomes active and puts the ball in the net he is flagged offside. If a penalty taker puts it in after rebounding off the post it’s disallowed not as offside but the rules are that when you take a penalty your not allowed to touch the ball twice before another player i.e the goalkeeper touches it.
     
  12. Dennis

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    A penalty taker cannot play the ball a second time until another player, including the gk, has touched it. If that wasn't the case, I'm sure you'd see plenty of instances of the penalty taker knocking the ball forward to himself in effect, and shooting from a closer range!
     
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    I’m shocked reading some of the comments here. The performance was great last night and the team put a huge shift in to get those three points. Anyone who says it was boring or average needs to go support a Premiership team or get their head out their backside and realise we are a League Two team and last night was a great team performance.
     
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    I said the same when it was disallowed, I forgot which game if was on TV but the ball was played in it took a eflected off a defender and the opposition player who was offside scored and the goal was allowed.
     
  15. Ulysses S Grant

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    A saved penalty put in by the taker is allowed. One that comes off the bar or post can only be put in by another player. I've always assumed, maybe wrongly, that it was for offside. Perhaps it is just because of what you said.
     
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    Considering the Harrogate game and comparing it to the Carlisle game, different systems, but the margins between the winning teams on the respective days was in my opinion was about the same.

    My view was that fourth placed Carlisle got the goal on Boxing Day. They were no great shakes and a far lesser team than either Northampton or Orient. Last night we got the goal. We played with more flair last night, but a single goal reflected the differences between the teams.

    Still a lot of work to be done, particularly in taking our chances.
     
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    Why are you shocked that someone might have a different opinion of a game they've been to?
     
  18. Rogered Tart

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    My take on it Rod. Was just saying the same in a conversation with Bronco. Last night was a game a very few chances for either side, we took one of them. We actually created more clear cut chances against Carlisle but Andy Cook had an unusual off night. Yet apparently last night was a great performance and Carlisle was awful. Nah, there wasn't that much to choose between the performances other than us taking our chances.
     
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  19. Bantam-in-Greece

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    It used to be called "played onside" if I remember Dave. If the attacker was in an offside position but if the ball was deflected to him by a defender, then "played on"
     
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    I think he is on a fishing mission.

    Last nights win was really needed. The spirit and endeavour was there and even to the last minute they were harrying and chasing Harrogate down.

    Not a vintage or memorable performance but a very welcome 3 points.

    Wright as a striker off Oliver worked really well I thought.

    7th with games in hand and not playing that well.

    Let's see what the Salford game brings before we get too giddy though.
     
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