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Asylum Seekers

Discussion in 'General Chat - No political posts' started by Tony Wilkinson, Aug 12, 2020.

  1. trevor

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    I know when I read BS passed off as fact
     
  2. Keefly Bantam

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    That will be most of your posts then?
     
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  3. trevor

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    Cheap, But there again from Keefly to be expected
     
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    I don't really think you do trev. anyone who says they have 100% accurate figures for tracking migration like this is probably a liar in my opinion. I would be more worried if they were passing off approximate figures as hard facts.
     
  6. trevor

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    I agree apart from the problem of when these figures are used or reported the qualification that the figures are best guesses are often left out of reports by politicians and the press when publicised leading to people believing the figures are accurate,
     
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  7. Bronco

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    How do they calculate illegal immigration, the name itself suggests they dont know because they have not come through the immigration system it's no more than a guess as most realise.
     
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  8. Keefly Bantam

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    Illegal immigration only exists after the asylum process has been completed and someone who has been refused asylum disappears. Thats the illegal bit.

    Actually applying for asylum is perfectly legal. Not adhering to a removal notice isnt.
     
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  9. Tony Wilkinson

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    So how many of the 5000 that come in on dinghies are processed and declared legal and how many are sent back, my guess is 5000 v 0
     
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    ;)
     
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  11. YungNath

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    With respect bronco you would laugh me out of town for trying to show you a video by someone like owen jones or yannis varoufakis and pass it off as a serious unbiased thing so I won't be watching any of Nigel's rubbish thanks
     
  12. YungNath

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    Tracking illegal migration by its nature isn't going to be an exact science. people slip through the cracks, and probably will do so even when their claim is approved. However I dont think the figues the civil service provide are likely to be as widely inaccurate so as to make them useless. They don't just pick numbers out of their arse for a laugh essentially
     
  13. Tony Wilkinson

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    That's right, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story..!!
     
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    Not sure you can pass all three videos off as insignificant because Farage was investigating where asylum seekers/ economic migrant are being kept especially when it was backed up by a government minister telling the House of Commons what asylum seekers/ economic migrant receive when they enter the country, but if you dont believe it because its Farage I respect your opinion.
     
  15. Keefly Bantam

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    Roughly 47% of all asylum applications are successful, so to answer your question approx 2,350.
     
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  16. Tony Wilkinson

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    You refer to 'all' asylum seekers, different to those that just sail in without permission/paperwork etc on their dinghies...
     
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    I said all asylum applications.

    However they arrive is irrelevant

    Of course those that dont apply and disappear wont be getting state aid etc and probably are working in the black economy.
     
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    to me he's implicitly biased and also not an investigative journalist. if these were pieces from somewhere like Reuters I would be more inclined to believe them
     
  19. YungNath

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    exactly tony, its important to make sure we get our information from relatively unbiased sources
     
  20. Tony Wilkinson

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    Erm, Farage is English and it's all happening on our shores, what the f as it got to do with a european news agency, they don't give a f, anyway would you like us to send you a couple of them around to you for you to look after...? we'll be passing your place en route to Linekar and Lily Allens place...!!
     
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