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The Voice - Match preview #22: Bradford City vs Chesterfield Sunday 29 December 2024 3:00pm

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by The Voice, Dec 28, 2024.

  1. Kevin1954

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    I still don’t believe Cook was offside last week, others didn’t touch the ball so don’t the rules say if they aren’t interfering with the keepers vision they can’t be called offside. The Prem is an absolute lottery. Nevertheless totally agree with your analysis .
     
  2. vin weasel

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    Dobra, Markanday and Mandeville are their 1st choice 3 behind the striker.
    Have been all season.
    Naylor and Araujo have been playing all season.
    Lots of injuries yes but do you think others have been saying we've been playing Bradford's B team since the beginning of October??
     
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  3. Kevin1954

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    Like it or not , and I don’t , that’s his “job” . Journalism doesn’t exist any more Peter.
     
  4. vin weasel

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    He was shocking. Giving free kicks for offside and then allowing them to be taken in the wrong half of the field summed him up. The assistant on the midland road side was just as bad.
     
  6. Kevin1954

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    Spot on, he lost control completely for 5 mins.
     
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  7. BenitoCarbone

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    Raynor is brilliant. He’s the best person that we’ve had covering City for years because he asks the questions that fans want answered and doesn’t shy away. You notice how good he is when he’s not there and they have some stand in like Reynolds doing it.
     
  8. bailiff bridge bantam

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    One of those refs who just makes the game a no contact sport with the constant blowing of his whistle.
    He stopped the momentum of at least 5 corners to talk to players about grappling but they just carry on knowing they never actually blow for fouls.
    The one where Byrne was shielding it out for a dead ball,their player fouled him as the ball went out and he had to blow for a foul rather than wait a split second and just give a goal kick was so stupid.
    We end up with a free kick 3 yards from the touch line instead of a goal kick.

    Didn't really spoil the game but his constant whistling (against both sides) for innocuous challenges made sure he was the centre of attention.
     
  9. vin weasel

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    The pull back on Sarcevic, the number 2 committing 2 bookable offences within the space of 5 mins of eachother but not having anything said to him, and Baldwin's shirt nearly removed whilst trying to tap in from the corner all missed.
     
  10. Bronco

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    Not a word about your poor finishing, put your chances away and you win the game, it's not a difficult game to understand ralspireite 1866.
     
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  11. borderlescott

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    That sitter they missed inside first ten mins in front of Kop. Wow!
     
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  12. Birky Bantam

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    The free kick was taken from the correct place, if anything it should have been a yard or 2 further inside our half. Cook touched the ball in our half so the free kick is take from there, the law was changed on that in 2016 so the free kick is taken from where the offence is not the offside position.
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  13. Keefly Bantam

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    It's laws like this that spoil the game. He couldn't be offside in his own half yet commits the offence in his own half. How is that a progressive law?
     
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  14. Birky Bantam

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    That must have been their first ever game of football they've been to. Every single team does it just like fans now throw the ball onto the pitch to try to delay a throw in after it's been kicked into the crowd or how the time for a keeper to take a goal kick depends on if they are winning or not. Their keeper was slow in the 1st half then he was a lot quicker in the 2nd half, Walker was the opposite. Every game is full of time management tactics.
     
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  15. Italia90

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    Amazed how many don’t know this rule .
     
  16. Birky Bantam

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    Every other free kick is taken from where the offence takes place so why should offside offence be any different?
     
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  17. TallinnBantam

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    In fairness, if the ref hadn’t have booked Benn early doors, GA might not have brought Pointon on straight after. I don’t think it was a tactical sub, I think GA thought that Benn has been had on toast. Just like Halliday on the other side.
     
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  18. Birky Bantam

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    I could understand more if it was new but this is the 9th season of it and I can think of a few occasions it's happened at VP including 1 earlier this season (think it was Salford) so it's not like it hasn't happened in front of our fans either. I've tried to explain it to some people before but I think they just can't get their head around the difference between offside position and offside offence.
     
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  19. Keefly Bantam

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    Well it's the definition of offence. If Cook was offside in their half isn't that's when the offence occurred? Why is touching the ball after the offence relevant. Wasn't for many years was it? Why change it? It's a bizarre rule change IMHO.
    Where is the offence recorded if Cook doesn't touch the ball? Where he was offside in the first place?
     
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  20. Tennesseebantam

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    The same reason that if a player is in an offside position just in the attacking half, the whistle doesn’t go until he plays the ball /attempts to/interferes with an opponent etc. And that is where the kick is taken, not where he was when first in an offside position. And it annoys me and other coaches no end. We keep talking about player safety, well blow the whistle before someone gets hurt as a result of a desperate challenge being made.
    A situation of offside position v whistle blowing could cost a defending team 50 yards or so of field position.
     
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