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The Voice - Match preview #15: Fleetwood Town vs Bradford City Saturday 9th November 2024 3:00pm

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by The Voice, Oct 20, 2024.

  1. Loyalbantam

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    Will you be happy with seeing the club drop into the National League, maybe even as low as Scunthorpe to realise this objective?
    Nobody is suggesting that what we are seeing now and for the last 6 years on the pitch is acceptable but fans walking away en-mass whilst operating costs remain the same would only mean less quality on the pitch than we see today and ultimately a drop into oblivion.
    The club would be worth nothing then so you could raid your piggy bank and buy it.
     
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  2. Bantam-in-Greece

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    Spot on Inspector, my faith in Alexander is slowly waining. Think I've had enough of this idiot.
     
  3. Loyalbantam

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    Where have I ever suggested there’s been progress in last 6 years, far from it and I’m as upset about it as anyone.
    But am I the only one who can see what would happen to the club if we lost 50% of season ticket sales?
    Good clubs like Oldham, Rochdale, Scunny have all suffered relegation and we would not be immune.
    We can get out of this league with Rupp and Sparks in charge but not with the pathetic negative managers we keep employing.
     
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  4. Bantamsteve

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    Tell me where you envisage we will be in 5 years time should the ownership/management of the club remain the same
    and fans still buy season tickets ?? nothing will change until Mr Rupp does unless you are happy with current affairs
    Do you not think that should we temporarily lose 50% of our season ticket sales (our largest income stream) Mr Rupp would either sell or invest ??
    Business men of his stature and the company he will be keeping don't see failure as an option
    Rest assured he would react
    Lastly who employs these "pathetic negative" managers you speak of there's a constant there if you look closely
    Your concern for our club is shared no one wants us to go the way of Rochdale Oldham Scunthorpe alternatively the potential is there for us to do a lot better with the right team in charge
     
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  5. simons (woking bantam)

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    Limited accountability and lack of ambition go hand in hand at our club.
    At the risk of repeating myself and boring people I am fed up at Alexanders continual message that everyone at the club needs to be the 'best version of themselves'. Its not the intent I am frustrated with, its just that its not getting through - we see it once every 2 months at best. Hollow words.
    They continue to fail us miserably from the top, we have no divine right but 10th in a poor basement league is an embarrassment to those in a position to generate progress. They are failing us yet again
     
  6. AngryGaz

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    Listen these folk aint going knowhere until the fanbase are united to get change and sadly with our fanbase its not gonna happen.

    Do folknot get that these twats are mocking you ????

    They fill you with bullshit and lies and have done for years now and folk still cannot see it :(
    The first thing that should have happened at the back end of last season was to get rid of that awfull recruitment team but it still remains :( and what did they do on the back of this bullshit era of investment etc ...........another window of crap and injury prone players ............i mean Sharpe coming in gave me hope of some kind of change a path that we are heading the right way but nothing fooking nothing at all :(

    Honestly the weakest league in years a realchance to get out and yet these twats show what again what they are really about..................honestly dont give them a penny hit them where it hurts they fooking dont care so why put money in there pockets why make there lives easier
     
  7. WilsdenBantam

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    You have told us time and time again that owners and CEOs etc have little bearing on the on field results, we know your stance. I do agree though that a boycott could see us out of business and it would be a disaster to drop into non league. But football is far more complex than just having a manager who’ll play 442 with wingers
     
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  8. Rogered Tart

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    At least he won't have any problems with tickets and reserved seating...
     
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  9. Loyalbantam

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    Honestly, probably no higher than league 1 if we’re lucky.
    But if we were to drop into non league we might never see league 1 again in our lifetime.
     
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  10. Get Rid Of It

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    Honestly,
    If you look at the L1 table you will see it is over run with former non league teams doing very nicely ta very much;
    wrexham,lincoln,stockport,mansfield,stevenage,bristol rovers(?),orient,crypto crawley,
    with former non league wycombe sitting top

    It can be done if City sort out the rent, the owner and the internal infrastructure limiting our current ambition
    If they cannot sort any of that out then the club can linger in the khazi league for a while yet
     
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  11. Loyalbantam

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    Come on now, Wycombe haven’t been non league for 3 decades.
    Your key point is the rent and unless we buy the ground back that problem continues to infinity.
    We drop to non league and our future of playing at VP is over. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
    Wrexham spent over 15 years in non league before they struck gold, where we wouldn’t.
    Stockport spent 10 years in non league and dropped to BPA level for 6 of those.
    They might be ok now but I don’t want to copy their path thanks very much.
     
  12. bantamlad92

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    Well if your clientele keep coming and paying their way then where's the catalyst to change for the better?

    If your customer numbers drop rapidly then you're going to be forced into making improvements to win them back.
     
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  13. donhutchinsaffro

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    We dont want to go into that league .... have you seem some of then teams....

    Why play players who are just average or good in their original positions in positions they do not play in normally?

    Perfect example having just watched the highlight's and second half Bobby is at it.. stop playing people out off position.... you can use injuries as a very small excuse... but stop switching super coach it makes me angry .... also stop playing Vadaine .... he is what is known as in the trade ........passed it
     
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  14. Bronco

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    I wish Alexander had yesterday it couldn't have been any worse than it was certainly the first half ;).
     
  15. Loyalbantam

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    In reality that’s not how business works.
    Usually when customer numbers drop it means the business cannot afford to continue operating and the lights are turned off and the doors locked forever.
     
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  16. Bronco

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    I have to agree yesterdays starting 11 was beyond belief and many commented about it BEFORE the kick off, he actually stopped the likes of Pointon, Walker, Kavanagh Cook doing what they should have been doing and that was making the Fleetwood defenders know they were in the game, one simple sub at half time allowing Oduor and Pointon to get forward and Kavanagh (who I have been critical of in the past) go at defenders we looked better a team capable of getting a result, where as first half we looked void of any attacking idea's, yet Alexander took no reasonability in his post match interview.
     
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  17. Salty

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    Absolutely.... nullifying your strengths to counter your opposition is mindless, unless it's a cup game against far superior opposition. The number of times we've looked better in the final quarter of a game because GA has had to completely change his initial approach and formation is beyond a joke now. If the players aren't listening to him it's no wonder, they're not as daft as people sometimes make out. They know when they're being set up to fail and it must be deflating when you're continually asked to do a job you know isn't your strong point. The task for a manager in any scenario is to make the best use of what you have available surely. Whatever might be wrong upstairs and we could go on all day about that...it doesn't dictate how GA picks his team and tactics, he's just not very good
     
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  18. Bantamsteve

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    Under the present regime L1 is a pipe dream as our extended stay in the khazi league testifies,staying there would be a battle too far as no forward thinking has been applied
    You seem a glass half empty man, don't go bust and don't go down is the mantra and tbh we are smashing it !!!
    Not sure what business you are in but a drop in revenue spotted early means changes HAVE to be made (hopefully in our case he would sell at a realistic price and the new owners install their own management team) and not that it has to cease trading i find that an extremely strange defeatist notion especially as he has a unique product to offer
    Mr Rupp will see the signs and react as I posted earlier failure to him is NOT an option
     
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  19. Bigrod

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    True.

    But you are only looking at one half of the equation.

    The National League has a huge amount of former league clubs

    York City; Forest Green Rovers; Barnet; Oldham Athletic (only National league team to play in the Premiership); Rochdale, Yeovil Town; Dagenham & Redbridge; Sutton; Southend United; Hartlepool United: Aldershot Town:

    Below that is Scunthorpe Town, Macclesfield Town, Bury, Torquay, further back Workington and Southport (I am sure someone will remember more).

    So a lot of former clubs, struggling.

    We need to manage our resources far more smartly.
     
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  20. Loyalbantam

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    Correct! There is more than enough budget at this club to get out of league 2.
    If I have any criticism over the current regime, it’s the appalling decisions they keep making on managerial choices.
    The club need to grow some balls and give Steve Evans the job the next time he gets fired. I don’t really give a toss what some of the fanbase think. I want promotion and he’d deliver.
     

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