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It’d surely be the other way round based on nonsensical posts. Though the likes of those who are nonchalantly brainwashed by the British Bullshit Corporation et al are unarguably more idiotic than actual crackheads.

 

Were you there?

You or @Offcomedun know no more about those referendums than I do.

You instead choose to believe an extremely biased narrative, based on one of the most obvious main stream agendas perhaps in peacetime.

 

Oh, that trope…. you know, this really isn’t a niche viewpoint any more don’t you? Maybe it is you being brainwashed by alt right BS being peddled online.

 

It’s all gonna be ok - Elon Musks’ got this!

 

Wow! That 'denazification manifesto' issued on an official Russian government platform makes very chilling reading. It explains why they have no compunction about the mass killing of Ukrainian citizens and complete destruction of entire towns and cities.
It's very clear that when Russian officials talk about 'nazis' in Ukraine they mean anyone and everyone who doesn't accept being a subservient subject of Russia.

 

USA is supplying the new HIMAR rocket that has a cluster killing effect with hundreds of thousands of steel balls that explode in the air and kill everything within a half mile radius, These modern mass killing weapons will force Russia to use its own mass killing weapon which is battlefield nuclear if this carries on

 

Russia has already been using cluster weapons in civilian areas.
Where have you got this info that the USA is supplying cluster weapons?

 

I got it from the MSN news and Telegraph news you can read yourself, The new cluster bomb for the HIMAR has the ability to not just destroy things over a few acres it can destroy anything living within half a mile, The advantage of using ball bearings is that they are not left live after deployment,
Ukraine's newest weapon: special Himars rockets that can devastate huge areas in one blast (msn.com)

 

But at least they're planning to use them against invading/occupying Russian troops, not innocent civilians as Russia has done in Ukraine and Syria.

I don't know if you read the article that River City Bantam posted above:

https://snyder.substack.com/p/how-does-the-russo-ukrainian-war

It makes a very good point. Many Russian troops are extremely poorly equipped. They certainly won't be issuing all these new, reluctant conscripts with full body PPE. Are they really prepared to unleash tactical nuclear weapons that are likely to irradiate or kill their own troops and potentially cause radiation in Russia itself. And that's not even considering the response they'd get from NATOs far superior conventional forces. I somehow doubt it.

 

Assuming of course that Putin will take a rational direction when under the pump

 

Well I hope you’re right and your points are very well put.

If you look at evil leaders from the years gone by they’ve all made ludicrous decisions. Hitler invading Russia where his soldiers all died in the freezing steps being one of them.

I do think Zelensky needs to calm it and also his arrogance when a nation doesn’t help then they are obviously in bed with Russia. You can’t say stuff like that, some countries may just want to stay out of it completely which is totally understandable.

Anyone fancy a ticket to Costa Rica?

 

I agree and that is the problem, While under Putin the modern equipment for the troops has been stolen leaving the new troops with gear from the 70s and 80s and nowhere near the modern fighting ability of the troops supplied by the west, Putin is coming under a lot of pressure and the danger is that he may authorize limited nuclear use both to save face at home and to get back in to a war he is losing, Of course he may choose a biological or gas response that has the same effect but less devastation
The popular view by the experts is that he will now wait till next year to boost his production of war materials and train his troops for a huge push, Meanwhile he will keep what he has and keep using shelling etc

 

Be interesting to know the real reason as to why Putin thought it necessary to invade Ukraine. He isn't mad like some suggest, he's calculated but based exactly on what? Something definitely pushed his buttons, unfortunately I don't think he thought through what the long game would be. The west will keep supplying arms to Ukraine as long as they need them.

 

The mystery to me is that Putin won't accept that NATO only exists to protect the West and we have no desire to extend in to or interfere in Russia's territories or way of life and it should be up to them to co operate with western governments to the benefit of everybody, unless I am being naive ..

 

Ta. I hope so too. For all its faults I rather like this planet. We've seen what nukes will do, and those were much weaker than what is available today; any use now would -- I certainly hope, and do believe -- require a response that drives it home to the user that a second such use would not be advisable. There is enough firepower available conventionally to make such a response.
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On a happier note: Crimea Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down / Crimea Bridge is falling down / Happy Birthday!

I've been waiting for something to happen to that bridge; this is a very good start. I suppose it remains possible that it was a Russian job, but I lean towards Ukrainian special forces. Russian resupply of Crimea is now going to be much more difficult; the untouched lanes may well be affected, and who knows how badly the rail line has been damaged. I wonder if this is indeed preparing the way for a third front heading down through Melitopol to the sea. THey have about a fortnight to do it, before the mud season kicks in for a month.

RCB

 

Yes we were saying at the game today we think it’s most definitely the Ukrainian special forces. Kudos to them.

 

On a serious note: I do begin to wonder if the bridge attack wasn't a Russian job after all. Between the military, FSB, mercenaries, and the Kremlin there is enough unhappiness at the moment that it is possible that one faction did this to discredit another. The "truck bomb" explanation doesn't seem likely; I haven't found it yet but it is claimed that there is a lengthier video of the events on the bridge deck that shows the lead car and lorry still in existence after the blast clears, and we know the back car and lorry stopped in time and survived. The explosion occurred between the two pairs of vehicles. An airburst (missile?) or a water-borne explosive (unmanned submarine?) seem more likely, given the blast patterns and effects. The Ukrainians would seem to have the submarine capability at least, but do they have a suitable missile and the capability to deliver it to the right place? I expect that we will, eventually, find out whodunnit, but that might be years away.

Tomorrow's (today's, now) Security Council meeting for Putin could be interesting. I suppose it's too much to hope for that the Council will channel Cromwell and speak as one to Putin: "In the name of God, go!" but Putin's position is getting more and more precarious.
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On a lighter note: Lots of fun to be had over at the historic tale construction kit: https://htck.github.io/bayeux/#!/ Let your inner mediaeval artist run free. I'll take the blame, er credit, for this one...



RCB

 

I’d be more concerned about the powers trying to do away with democracy, rather than the ‘nuclear war’ bluster from a useful idiot.

 

NATO will never again be able to claim it is a defensive organisation as it supplies billions of dollars in Arms and trains Ukrainian troops even though they are not a member to not only defend but also to attack Russia. They claim it is not NATO but individual members but hold meetings of members to agree the support needed so they are clearly involved