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Me neither. I'm sure Sparks and Rupp must have a plan.
With a plan, we're in a decent position. The stadium is useless without us!

 

Interesting to hear others opinions but as the old deal would have finished would the same rules apply to the negotiation of a new deal, ie an older stadium, more money to spent on infrastructure of the stadium etc, or do the trustees still have to get the same of better deal.

 

I don’t disagree with a couple of your points but I dont think its a championship standard ground apart from capacity. Saying that neither is The Den or Kenilworth Road

The area its in is truly awful. Im actually embarrassed by the state of the area surrounding it. Little the club can do about that i suppose but the council don’t give a flying fig. A "proper" football ground is all well and good but at some point you have to go with the times. You have to improve to prosper eventually. The opportunities that come with a new ground along with improved and modern facilities is the way forward. It wont happen while we are rotting in league 2 though.

 

Right… but some people do care!
I’ve been to over 70 football grounds and for me our ground apart from the size of it is abit crap. It needs an overhaul. I don’t think you’d disagree on that? Would it maybe be worth moving and maximising out potential? Absolutely… If you want to continually live in the past then crack on.

 

Agree with that, but also, where is the money coming from to stay? Unfortunate reality is that if by say the end of the 24/25 season, if we are still in this division, signing on to stay at VP at those inflated rates by that time for another long term lease, isn't an option either if the club wants to have any financial muscle on the pitch. Rupps reign is over 6 years in and hasn't really gone into any details for plans to buy VP.

Once you go in the champ, there's different safety check rules for stands too, hence why Peterborough couldn't open their oldest stand all last season and now have scrapped it for approved safe standing. Think from memory QPR were having to look into it too for one of their stands. Luton only get away with it for a loophole on their small stand, because it's just now exec boxes only rather than a 'stand'. The TL Dallas might end up needing some work to even open in the champ without some money put in it.

 

Not sure they are inflated rates the subject of the rent we pay has been done to death I believe posters have looked at other clubs in our position and they are paying similar or in some cases more, as I said the higher the division were in the less on a burden the annual rent becomes.

 

Not for the training facility Rod.

 

Well it is but you lack ambition so you won’t understand.

Look, dress it up all you want! It’s a school and we train there. We own nothing!

 

Think you might have read my last piece wrong, i didn't mean we had an agreement in which we are used by Gibb..... I meant any future agreement with Gibb, he will want something based on what he's been used to, ie £500K+ a season on a new lease because of his business knack and knows we've paid it before, nothing stopping him ask again or to offer us reduced terms, because it's not great business. As you say, he's a very astute business man.

Seemingly these teams with new grounds or developments, either have a well off owner or have the council pay it, then the clubs arrange buy back leases, where they pay it back over a long long time but it's much cheaper than rental agreements. Like before, Stockport have bought their ground for £2m over a 250 year agreement. Rotherham sold their old one, owners backed another chunk then loaned £5M off the council, which they paid very early. Brentfords was a mix of many investors and loans. Looking over the recent moves for lower league sides in terms of stadium purchases or moving, it looks like the ones that move, have a stadium to sell to the councils to help fund. The ones that dont own their grounds either have to buy it at an enlarged fee for what it is, or move with outside investment. The easiest outcome is Rupp buys VP, but if after 6 years he hasn't kicked those talks off, begs the question if he ever will? Or is he hoping he gets a good offer and lets a new guy deal with any stadium question?

 

Just the one problem could Stefan persuade Gordon Gibb/Pension fund to sell, it would be a fantastic deal 25 years of past rents, then maybe a deal for £xxx million for the stadium paid over a period of time rather than a one off payment.

 

You said this season is a free hit not very ambitious that especially when rest of us want to be promoted cmon fordy get some ambition in yer life it’s great

 

At Apperley Bridge the Stansfield Arms was adjacent to the playing field where Bradford FC came to prominence before the move to Park Avenue in 1880. (The same venue was also significant in the history of association football in Bradford.)

file:///C:/Users/jbutt/Desktop/stuff/Historic%20Bradford%20pubs%20and%20their%20part%20in%20the%20development%20of%20football%20%E2%80%93%20bradford%20sport%20history.html

It has more football history than you think

 

Cant get the link to open mate.

 

I might have read it if I knew what the link was too, even after many years watching the lads there is always something to learn.

 

Well training at a school does not appear to be much of an issue to Mr Hughes and the team so far this season
Although if we had are own facilities , surely we would be promoted by now.

 

What’s triple lock? Is that where pensioners get a rise in line with inflation whilst most other people haven’t had a pay rise for several years ?

 

What’s triple lock? Is that where pensioners get a rise in line with inflation whilst most other people haven’t had a pay rise for several years ?

yeah you’re right. The UK state pension is poor compared to others.

https://www.profilepensions.co.uk/blogs/state-pension-comparison-pt1