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Discussion in 'General Football' started by Park bantam, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. Park bantam

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  2. QCFC BANTAM

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    Was this in the terms and conditions when they sold the STs? I don't see how you can legally enforce this against people who've paid for their seat unless they agreed to it when they bought the ST.
     
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    I don't think it's an unreasonable thing to require as long as it's not one offence and done because obviously unexpected things can happen where letting the club know won't be possible. It would also need an easy to use ST portal where people could in one click say they weren't going to be able to attend

    After all if you can't attend but the club's have people who would like to attend then you are depriving someone else. It would also perhaps be a good idea if the seat wasn't resold at full price, either have it given away to schools, youth club's or the likes or sold at a discount to people living with a radius of the ground
     
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  5. Park bantam

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    Surely you have paid for the privilege. Why not make the tickets transferable
     
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  6. SimonW

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    In this day and age, you can't really due to the laws surrounding football. Just look at all the data carabao needed for the ticket giveaway
     
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  7. Stafford Bantam

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    But you could release your ticket back to the Club. However, the Club shouldn't be able to force season ticket holders to do so. Far better to offer an incentive to do so, e.g. if the Club successfully resells your ticket, you get a partial refund.
     
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    Or you get credits to spend in the club shop or at the ground etc? Surely that's a win win?
     
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    You can release your ticket. Watford are clearly doing this though as people aren't bothering to do so.

    I would imagine offering incentives to do so is logistically a bit of a problem. Especially when resale tickets are likely to be cheaper to buy anyway
     
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    With our WHU STs you can either notify the club that someone else is using your ticket and they will allow it to be transferred, but it has to be on a game by game basis.
    A few classes of ST you can buy as a group, we have four and have nominated two alternative names who might use them when we can't.
    You can also put them on the Club Ticket Exchange on a game by game basis, the club will sell them to members on the waiting list at face value, and credit your Club Cash account with the amount, less an admin fee. Club Cash can be used to by food, drinks, merchandise or as part payment against you ST renewal.
     
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    At Spurs you can let the club know you are not attending and if they resell it the money is deposited into your Spurs account for you to use on tickets or withdraw
     
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    That sounds like a pretty fair system.
     
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    That is quite innovative and guaranteed to be popular with supporters.
     
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    You'd think so, but the number of times I've heard folk moaning about £2.50 admin charges!
     
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    What about Wembley and other prestigious venues used for final games, where there are often empty seats during matches.

    Would Wembley ban those that stay in the corporate hospitality zone when the match is on. As it is an FA enterprise, when there are Internationals and the FA Cup Final, then they could do this! Will they, will they heckers like!
     
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    Slightly different though. A lot of Club Wembley tickets and boxes were sold on a debenture basis which helped fund the building. Some Club Wembley seats are sold to fans IF the owner notifies Wembley of availability.
     
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    Make confirmation terms of the lease. If no confirmation then the seats/box can be resold and the ‘profit’ split between the FA and the lease holder. Not that difficult if you think outside of the box (but we are talking about the FA here).
     
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    Correct and as it happens the debenture holder can set a time default, ie. if they require the box or seat then they confirm 7 days in advance, or the ticket gets re-marketed.
     
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