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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Bronco, May 5, 2021.

  1. Edin Nowhere

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    I find people like Ann Cryer credible sources as they spoke out whilst it was happening, people like "Simon Danczuk" however seem to just be doing so because they are now outside the tent looking in. Did he ever mention this whilst he was Rochdale MP or a Labour Party member, or did all this come out after he was thrown out of the party because he was exchanging explicit texts with a 17 year old who applied for a job in his consituency office?

    Just like the Tories who after 14 years of power are suddenly shouting about it, it all just look opportunistic. Robbie Moore who happens to be my MP has actually called repeatedly for an inquiry since he became an MP.
     
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  2. Bronco

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    Who knows he certainly mentioned it at the time to Jim Dobbin and Tony Lloyd and was told to keep shtum, is it relevant this is about young kids being systematically raped and according to Raja Miah MBE the Labour party were complicit and knew what was happening and allowed it to continue because they didn't want to lost the Muslim vote, ironically I've just emailed your MP Robbie Moore with regards the grooming issue as there is little point in emailing Judith Cummings who will tow the party line, have these people no consciences, surely they can start implementing the Jay report as a National Inquiry is being implemented ?.
     
  3. Tony Wilkinson

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  4. Bronco

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  5. Edin Nowhere

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    I think your MP is deputy speaker so I think she doesn't actually vote or tow the party line anymore, she's effectively administration staff within the house of commons these days. Her last vote was the Kings Speech back in July.
     
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  6. Bronco

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    Maybe not worded correctly, I did notice her in the chair the other day maybe I should have said IMO she would have agreed with the Labour parties decision with regards a National Inquiry.
     
  7. Edin Nowhere

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    Stirring the pot already. "It's finally revealed." It's the actual procedure that they don't announce everything until a trial as it would prejudice the case. Now a verdict is in the books this information is released. That's just how our justice system works, it's how it has always worked. Farage plays on the naive with this kind of shit. If it was a cover up we wouldn't be getting told this now, it was coming out in time as the trial was set for today.

    I can tell you alot about someone in the district who is running a business but as they have a trial date set later this year no one can report anything, but trust me things are known and will be disclosed in due course.

    Clearly there have been failing here, but it is all coming out it's not being hidden otherwise they wouldn't be currently talking about this things that have come out.

    By the way, this is just embarassing,

    "'I asked that question 24 hours after the murders. I said why are we not being told the truth? Was this man known to the authorities? We were met with a complete wall of silence,' the Reform leader said.""

    Truth is he openly asked this on his TV show when he could have been in the house of commons to ask this direct to the home secetary but he didn't.
     
  8. Bronco

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    Yes at Trumps invite, I prefer him to be in the US hopefully he'll be able to oil a few wheels for Peter Mandelson to get deals done.
     
  9. Edin Nowhere

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    I mean when the Home Secretary was giving an urgent statement in the house of commons just after the murders he didn't attend it, instead he pondered questions openly on his TV show when he had the opportunity to ask the home secretary direct.

    Quite clearly the departments to look at these things, like with Star Hobson's death, like with the grooming gangs, etc, etc missed repeated warnings to act and this is why we are where we are. 2019 this scumbag was first on the radar.
     
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  10. Storck

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    can you tell me about the money waiting for parents of kids with autism and adhd as I want a some of it as my lad has both and so for we haven’t seen any money. It was our GP there referred him for the tests when we were there trying to get something else sorted.
     
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  11. Storck

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    it is a bit like pensions. When they first started the age was set due to the average life expectancy after that point, just a few years. Now people are living longer but trying to up the age causes out cry’s. The same will be if they try and change the definition of disability.
     
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  12. Rogered Tart

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    I'm not gonna do the work for you Storck. Put some effort in fella, seek and you shall find.
     
  13. Storck

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    The reply is always given by people with no evidence to back up their 'facts'. People that can back up things happily hsare their proof
     
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  14. Aaron Baker

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    Agree. There's probably a hundred different changes that are needed to make the balance more realistic but there's no political will to do it. We seem to have grown into a society where the government is responsible for nobody having and struggle in their lives and that is neither the point of a government nor truly an optimal use of their resources.

    We, as a society and media consumers need to not be so petrified every time someone says " this change is going to make the lives of x group" more difficult" when in reality we've pushed the boundaries of how much we as a whole can help everyone out.
     
  15. WilsdenBantam

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    Have you had a diagnosis yet? Once you get one you should be entitled to DLA.
     
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  16. Storck

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    DLA is non diagnostic benefit. You do not need a diagnosis to get it and on the flip side having a diagnosis doesn't guarantee you get it. It all depends on what extra care is needed rather than the diagnosis itself
     
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  17. Aaron Baker

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    Listening to Starmer about the Southport attacks this morning and can't help feeling that the main thing that's going to come out of it is them trying to clamp down on online freedoms.

    The failure of the various systems in this case, on top of the various grooming gangs and even going back to the case of poor Star Hobson seems to show that failures in the state are endemic. Get those parts sorted out first and then worry about what people are saying on line.
     
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    We live in very dangerous times when it comes to freedom of expression. A state being to dictate what can and cannot be said but only on their terms is akin to the rule of the stasi in east Germany, this is where we currently find ourselves. Sounds ridiculous but is it? Police knocking on peoples doors for apparent online 'offences', even to a point recording non hate crimes

    https://freespeechunion.org/an-orwellian-society-non-crime-hate-incidents-and-the-policing-of-speech/

    Thankfully Starmer won't last beyond this term of office, whether we get someone in office to reverse this narrative when he departs remains to be seen.I won't hold my breath...
     
  19. Edin Nowhere

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    Ironically it is things that are easily found online which appears to have turned the head of this Southport Murder.

    There is an issue here, we people like us can read something and think, that's bollocks and move beyond it but there are plenty of people who are happy to go down rabbit holes, will believe any old bollocks on line and are easy manipulated to cause havoc whilst those spewing the poison sit back and watch it all kick off.

    This scumbag who for me should be strung up to the nearest lampost is not a muslim and was born in the UK. The initial rumours were he came over on one of the boats and had an arabic name. Those facts can't be denied. He wasn't some cardiff choir boy but no one said he was beyond various grifters, the police just said he was born in cardiff possibly to remove the rumour he was someone from the boats.

    What is a massive problem is he was known since 2019, these are the issues that need to be addressed. Just like Star Hobson's abuse was reported long before her murder and Ann Cryer called out about arranged marriage and grooming gangs long before any action was taken. People knew the Horizon software was fault when postmasters were still being sent to jail. This is not a one off, it's a systemic failure over what looks like generations where absolutely no one has ever been held to account, and by account I don't mean sacked, i mean prosecuted.

    An inquiry just kicks this all into the long grass so it's forgotten by the time the findings are released as something else has happened to move it of the news agenda.
     
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