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The Sociopath

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Dubois, Oct 23, 2018.

  1. Dubois

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    Just came upon this definition of a particular psychotic disorder. Anyone come to mind?

    Profile of the Sociopath

    This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behaviour of sociopaths.
    • Glibness and Superficial Charm
    • Manipulative and Conning
      They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviours as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
    • Grandiose Sense of Self
      Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
    • Pathological Lying
      Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
    • Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
      A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
    • Shallow Emotions
      When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
    • Incapacity for Love
    • Need for Stimulation
      Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
    • Callousness/Lack of Empathy
      Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
    • Poor Behavioural Controls/Impulsive Nature
      Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
    • Early Behaviour Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
      Usually has a history of behavioural and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviours such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
    • Irresponsibility/Unreliability
      Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
    • Promiscuous Sexual Behaviour/Infidelity
      Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
    • Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
      Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
    • Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
      Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
    Other Related Qualities:

    1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
    2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
    3. Authoritarian
    4. Secretive
    5. Paranoid
    6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behaviour will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
    7. Conventional appearance
    8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
    9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
    10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
    11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
    12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
    13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
    14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
    15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
     
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  2. Campbell's soup

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    Me :)
     
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  3. How

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    I think I know who you are talking about.....

    To be honest, after what I heard at the game tonight, I'm not sure I will be defending them any time soon. January is going to be an interesting month
     
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  4. JonButterfield

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    Huh?
     
  5. How

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    Get your plane fired up
     
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  6. CT Bantam

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    What did you hear mate?
     
  7. How

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    If you DM me I'll let you know. Don't really want to post on here as some can come back to him I think
     
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  8. JonButterfield

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    Lets get the amount required and it will happen sooner rather than later.
     
  9. Disillusioned of Bingley

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    I don't blame you. Have sent you a DM, really interested to know what you've heard. Welcome aboard!
     
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  10. Bigrod

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    I think you could qualify this by saying that they could display some aspects of this diagnosis, I guess for a formal diagnosis there would need to be a significant number identified, rather than all of them!
     
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  11. Chris Withe

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    People with those types of disorder are often quite charming and charismatic. I've never thought Edin was either.

    Perhaps I'm just a cynical old get, but I was wary of him from the off. He seemed far too eager to say all the right things and obviously loved the limelight. The more I've seen and heard from him, the more convinced I've become that he's wholly unsuited to running a football club.

    Rahic Out!
     
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  12. River_City_Bantam

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    Could there be any connexion to one of the comments, by "John", on the latest WOAP piece? It would be good to have that point either confirmed or denied. If true, it could be rather worrying.

    RCB
     
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  13. Johnny Yen

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    Here we go!
    Write Alledgedly at the beginning
    Or you may as well put "Once upon a time"
     
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  14. How

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    Yes. Big connection
     
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    If it's on a comment on woap then surely we can post it freely here regardless of it getting back to the fuhrer. Anyone interested will just go to woap and read it. What's he gonna do, come for our wallets?

    Anyway, executive box holders being asked to pay their final installment now rather than january/February when it's usually paid. Indication of shite cash flow, little prospect of investment in January if that's the case.

    Let the worrying commence
     
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  16. Onside

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    Sorry can you elaborate?
     
  17. Here's Johnny

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    The WOAP comment from John Dewhirst.
    " Your comment about cash is pertinent and confirms little prospect of investment in the squad by our current owners in January. Relegation is certain and we can expect further embarrassment to come. But hopefully the end of this chapter is in sight and there will be a new beginning"

    Why is there "hope of an end to the chapter and a new beginning"? Wishful thinking? Genuine prospect of new owners? There won't be cash from the current owners but from others? The current owners get as much of their cash back out of the club as they can and put us in admin which would make relegation certain?
     
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  18. Onside

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    Can we just be sensible about this
    i wish I could see a light at the end of a tunnel. Plus on top of having to watch my club being messed about with to the breaking point, I have to look at the other half who is walking around with a face like a smacked arse, anyway sent him out to do something other than think about City.
     
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  19. River_City_Bantam

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    It's the point mentioned by @Stevay_b@Stevay_b above; last night someone just identified as "John" -- not John Dewhirst -- claimed the same in the comments to the latest WOAP piece.

    RCB
     
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  20. Onside

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    Yes thank you. I went to the site and read it. Intriguing to say the least.
     

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