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The Deep South

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Tennesseebantam, Jun 22, 2020.

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  1. Tennesseebantam

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    So recently, NASCAR announced a ban on bringing the Confederate flag in the tracks. The only African-American driver, Bubba Wallace campaigned for this and changed the livery of his car to include Black Lives Matter.
    Yesterday, footage shows a small airplane flying overhead with a large Confederate flag and the slogan Defund Nascar. Other footage shows people turning up with large Confederate flags flying from their trucks.
    Astonishingly, yesterday a noose was found in the garage used by the Wallace team. Jeez we still have a long way to go.
    Edit: The link I tried to post is going straight to a prerecorded video, can't get it to just link directly to the actual article.
     
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    It's going to get a hell of a lot worse , looking at pictures form America .
    The problem is both sides of the argument have the means to turn it into more than a war of words .
     
    #2 Offside, Jun 22, 2020
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  3. Dennis

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    I suspect there will be more Charlottesville type incidents occurring in that part of your country. And I'm hoping that somebody on Pennsylvania Ave doesn't see an opportunity to attract more votes from followers of the Dixie flag or it will only get worse.
     
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    Not just a long way to go, It's actively going backwards from what I can see.
     
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    And what do they say,

    where America goes we follow
     
    #5 Storck, Jun 22, 2020
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    Definitely. Trump is a big reason why in my opinion.
     
    #6 Frank Castle, Jun 22, 2020
  7. Tennesseebantam

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    In his speech yesterday, he never once mentioned the George Floyd issue, but he did say how he'd saved hundreds of thousands of lives due to his COVID policies and then went on to tell the (sparse) crowd how he implored the medics to slow down the testing, that way there would be fewer cases. But also remember, after Charlottesville, instead of calling the supremacists out, he did a conference where he stated there were good people on both sides. Sadly, I think you are right Frank. But I can say that my "home" state is the home of the Klan and however much we'd like to thing otherwise, it is still a reality. That goes for a lot of the south and as you say, they are definitely emboldened by El Tangoman
     
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    Genuinely shocked to hear that the KKK are still an active organisation.

    How can Trumps MAGA square up with an active KKK?
     
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    #8 Keefly Bantam, Jun 22, 2020
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    It will indeed become worse, because the real underlying issues are being lost to a clouded narrative that's been hijacked by an even clouded political movement. Theres no room for tolerance, empathy, open dialogue, looking at people as individuals. Everything is about group ideology and division
     
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    That notion genuinely scares the shit out of me.
     
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    #10 Faithful Bantam, Jun 22, 2020
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    Me too, I hate baseball.
     
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    Just seen that online. Massive relief for everyone involved.
    I thought the response from NASCAR and it's crews on Monday was first rate .
    Just how heightened are sensitivities right now though?
     
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    Indeed. There's a knife edge on so many things - a deep seated mistrust and very little restraint being shown all around. I'm not criticizing the reaction, but its presumably a factor in why something like this happens and the immediate, default reaction of the driver was one of it being a racially motivated, targeted incident and why it attracted media headlines before any facts were established. And I fear we're in a vicious, downward spiral. Stepping back from the edge to have an open, tolerant debate - where disagreement is allowed and the value of compromise is held - doesn't seem to be on the agenda.
     
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    Excellent post FB but just now seen footage of the "offending " item, seems it was captured on previous footage and I have to say, I can see why someone thought it was a noose. Just waiting for the segment to feature.
     
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    Here you go, the picture of the rope. I think it's fairly obvious how it could have been seen as a noose, rather than just a rope handle.Clearly not a hate crime as FB mentions above but I suspect, given the location and symbolism, that we might not have heard the last of it.
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    easy mistake to make in the current climate, was quiickly resolved and cleared up though. i have to say nascar are really holding it down for progressive causes recently and i did not expect to be saying that at all haha
     
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    Thay picture certainly paints a very different scenario than the one above.
     
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