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The Bog Standard Hot Air thread

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Onside87, Jan 5, 2022.

  1. Onside87

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    Ive just been reading the notes from the supporters board meeting from the end of Dec. We dont have enough money for hand dryers in the toilets but we do seem to have a budget to spend in Jan and our current budget is top 7. I find the messages from the club very mixed.
     
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  2. andyc

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    i would rather have a red hot player than hot hands after i have used the toilet, which i try not to do at city.
    if the club can get somebody else to pay for hand driers, good on them.
     
  3. Onside87

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    You think supporters should pay for hand dryers? I mean there has to be some kind of structure and basic customer satisfaction.
     
  4. Rogered Tart

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    Can't we have both? Not having decent hand driers in toilets in the 21st century is pretty poor tbh. We ain't in the 70s no more
     
  5. andyc

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    I did not mention supporters, just said someone else. The whole lower tier of the main stand has new seats but the club has not spent a penny on them. The more that can be done like this guides more income to the playing budget and hopefully a better chance of success. On many occasions i have personally gone over and above just buying a season ticket. I see the club as mine, my sons and my grandsons and every single supporter, not just belonging to the current custodian. I hopefully will be here long after he has gone, like all the owners before him.
     
  6. Ulysses S Grant

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    Because our crowd is majority male and we dont care about drying our hands. If they put them in the gents who would us them ? Who even cares ? Waz, rinse, shake.

    Man, how did we live before hand dryers and paper dispensers.

    The fact that the supporters board even raised it shows they know their place in the pecking order is somewhere below the mice in the board room. If I were Sparks I would have peed myself when that was brought up.

    Perhaps the real reason my troops battered Bobby Lee was because his men demanded hand dryers on the battlefield.
     
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  7. Onside87

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    The hand dryer its self isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that there is zero budget for that kind of thing. The stadium is a mess and we don’t even own it. Our infrastructure is piss poor.
     
  8. Faithful Bantam

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    You uncouth beast.
     
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  9. trevor

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    Hand dryers in the toilets are basic health and safety and should be supplied by the club not the supporters, Also much more hand sanitizers are needed in the stands and communal areas,
    All this demonstrates how amateurish the club is run apart from a priority on social media to spread the PR messages which seem more important to the club than basic fan health and safety
     
  10. Faithful Bantam

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    Its piss poor all round, if you'll pardon the pun.

    A bog standard (there's another pun) hand dryer is about £100. Lets say there are 20 that need replacing. £2000. An electrician would easily sort it in a day. Lets be generous and say installation and delivery costs are another grand.

    £3000 to sort a basic hygiene issue. 'No budget'.

    Dear me.
     
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  11. Onside87

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    Dont get me wrong I can see why people would think we are nit picking and I get that. My main point is the fact that Ryan has come out and said there is no budget for these kind of things. I’m all for pumping enough money into the playing squad as possible. I want Derek to have the best budget we can possibly provide but if Bradford City cant provide paying customers the basic hygienic needs, especially during a viral pandemic then we have to question the investment. The product on the pitch is poor as is the clubs infrastructure.
     
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  12. Faithful Bantam

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    I hear you. I don't go to games anymore but when I did, it never really bothered me. Bit of an annoyance, but it didn't register on my list of why I think the club has some real problems.

    Reasonably well clubs just deal with this stuff. But when you're called out on it, citing a lack of funding for a club of 'our size' is just laughable.
     
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  13. Onside87

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    There are also many smaller club with far better facilities. We talk about being a big fish in a small pond. I see zero evidence of that apart from the fact we get big crowds because we have a large City population.
     
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    You know, if I owned a shop I wouldn't take money out of my buying department to fund maintenance work.

    That money would have to come from somewhere else. I'd need to buy in products to sell regardless of the state of the building and facilities.

    Even factoring in scale of economies, player budgets and stadium budgets will be totally separate
     
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  15. Bronco

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    That's an interesting point @trevor@trevor there will be basic rules with regards hygiene and if the club aren't meeting them they would soon be in trouble I'd think, but your right meeting the basics of hygiene with regards simple things like hand dryers should be maintained as ongoing.
    I've seen a guy going round on match days with a clip board as I've gone to my seat surely we could ask the cleaners to try the hand dryers as they go about their job and if the odd one is not working ( it could just a fuse that needs replacing not the whole unit) report it.
     
  16. Park bantam

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    Up and down the country fans fund raise for the clubs they support. The money we have for the playing budget is the same as the money for ground upkeep.of course you expect basic facilities to be in place if fans want to help there is absolutely nothing wrong in that.
     
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  17. andyc

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    If we had a stadium that held 15000 in much smaller stands, then i am pretty sure maintenance would become far easier.
    The main stand capacity is greater than some of our current oppositions whole grounds.
    We are a victim of our lack of success . Championship with 20000+ plus crowds and all the extra revenue that provides, i am certain it would be a different ball game. For now it is make do and mend, issues that many a business is doing at this present time.
     
  18. Rogered Tart

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    Jeez some on here would still be happy pissing in a trough in the open air. We're in 2022, I know Bradford is 20 years behind the times but is it too much to ask to be able to not have to dry your hands on yourself? Are we really that skint for a few hundred quid?
     
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  19. borderlescott

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    The state of the toilets is embarrassing for a club that often encourages family attendance at matches.

    Water that’s ice cold or red hot, no soap, and faulty hand dryers. I couldnt care less myself but dread taking the kids to the loo when they come.

    is soap in the toilets really too much to ask?

    my favourite trap was the botched job in the corner in the NW corner downstairs.

    Ridiculous gap at the bottom of the door as they’d fitted the frame above the pipes on the wall.
     
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  20. NorthernMonkey

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    That's too basic of an example.

    For instance, if your business is in the entertainment industry such as a cinema or even a pub you'll need to invest in the building and facilities or people will simply stop coming.

    I'm not saying the local pub needs to look like Buckingham Palace but if the bogs don't flush and all the tables are broken it won't be long before you aren't selling any products so your purchase budget is irrelevant.
     

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