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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Rogered Tart, Jan 12, 2024.

  1. Rogered Tart

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    Time to get rid of this ridiculous tax we are charged to watch or listen to this. Should be a subscription based service. I don't watch or listen to any of their output anymore, haven't done for years.
     
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    Was just having a look on Twitter and last night’s question time was being talked about.
    The first question on the programme was along the lines of “ why has it taken an ITV drama to get the government to act on the PO scandal?”

    Fiona Bruce decided that rather than immediately pass it to a panellist who is in the current government and is tasked with being the Health Minister (Andrea Ledsom) she’d get the views of Lisa Nandy (Labour) and Lord Rose (Asda chairman) first.
    Staggering that a Government minister wasn’t immediately taken to task over the harrowing plight that hundreds of innocent people have had to endure for years.

    Absolutely smacked of letting the minister have extra time to dissect the arguments of the others and then rubbishing their claims.

    Just an example of the bias that exists on our national broadcaster.

    Don’t get me started on their football coverage and the inane,insipid analysis that Saturday night MOTD has become.
     
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  3. Rogered Tart

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    It's past it's useful sell by date. It does period dramas well but if I should have the choice to watch them and as a consequence pay for them. I should not have to pay for a service I do not use. Like paying a standing charge on my electric but not using it, it's wrong.
     
  4. king karl

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    Have adverts like ITV,,, simples
     
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    The BBC is just shiete. Overpaid presenters and full of repeats
     
  6. Tony Wilkinson

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    Only GBNews will give you a balanced view of what's going on ......

    BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and SKY just embarrassing...
     
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    are they over paid? Or is the problem that they are paid by the license fee? Very rarely see people comment about ITV or Sky presenters wages even though they are on more than BBC.
     
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    Yes whilst Gary Lineker is speaking sounds about right.
     
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    So you never listen to City commentary on BBC Radio Leeds?
     
  10. Rogered Tart

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    No. And don't mention ifollow cos i can watch without the sound on.
     
  11. Storck

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    Plus you have to pay for that so isn't part of the BBC output
     
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    It's actually not that simple. Advertising budgets don't increase just because there are more advertising channels, companies have a fixed ad budget and then decide where to spend that budget. We already see more and more places to advertise making budgets more stretched. The BBC going ad supported would just make that even worse, even media companies that have agendas against the BBC don't want the BBC to go ad supported as it would hit everyone's advertising revenue (it would likely even impact this site) but especially TV networks as they would draw a sizable amount of existing ad spend. Ultimately for TV that means everyone has less income and thus less budget and that means more and more low quality TV as the budgets now don't support an expensive nature doc or a prestige drama, they just support a Kardashian style reality shows
     
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    They absolutely aren't overpaid. A good example is the Director General of the BBC who has to oversee the whole operation, that's multiple TV channels including a number of niche channels (S4C and BBC Worldwide), iPlayer, the websites, national and local radio, content production etc etc gets paid £550k a year. The Daily Mail who hate the BBC and constantly push for the end of the Licence fee pay the editor £2.5mill, that's to oversee a Single newspaper.

    Also alot of the time the reports aren't accurate as it's not what is actually being paid to a person. For example Graham Norton is often someone who is criticised for what the BBC pays him, however the amount isn't actually paid to him, it's paid to his production company to not just make his chat show but also a certain amount of other content for both TV and radio each year. Yes he gets paid out of that figure buts it's a fraction of the amount.

    The BBC not paying the industry rate is one of the problems they face. They are one of the biggest trainers in media but they often don't benefit from that because by the time they reach the level to bring some real value a commercial network offer then many times more to jump ship so they do have a talent drain both in front and behind the camera
     
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  14. Storck

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    Exactly.
     
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    The ITV drama came off the back of this and earlier BBC TV .

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0675m1j/panorama-trouble-at-the-post-office

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0016t20/panorama-the-post-office-scandal

    The BBC did a magnificent piece of investigative journalism. None of the papers really touched it.

    The drama on ITV and the major national current scandal would not have existed if it wasn’t for the BBC.
     
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    To be fair I don't think @bailiff bridge bantam@bailiff bridge bantam was having a go at the BBC not covering it, more the fact that Andrea Ledsom wasn't asked the question on QT first. I believe that comes down to the fact to ensure that one person doesn't just take over who gets to answer first is rotated through the panel. And as you ideally want the first person to be best qualified to answer the question and maybe start a debate I would assume there were questions later on where it related to her department that they wanted her to answer first. And seeing as the system went into action when Labour was in power it might very well have been a better question of the rep from the government at the time to answer
     
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