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Stuart's less is more piece in the T/A

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Brackenrigg, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Brackenrigg

    Brackenrigg Fringe Player

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    SM is going to need to be much more careful with his PR.
    He may well be right that he wants to operate next season with a smaller,hungrier squad.
    He may but in the meantime needs to keep telling his fans that he knows what is needed.
    His principle problem is the rest of this season and how to get a winning formula out of the bloated
    staff he is getting to know.
    Surely he must understand that the pros in the building will know full well that he will want to refashion
    a squad in the summer and wont need telling.
    Those that are contracted already for next season are on easy street. Some will want to stay and some wont.
    Some will want to go and some will know who he will keep.
    It is all very well saying what he thinks we all want to hear but we have games to play and points to win.
    I'm not sure all the players will react well to this additional pressure.
    They know the score but may not care enough to try for another new manager particularly one with Stuart's
    City history.
     
  2. Lordbantam

    Lordbantam Fringe Player

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    Everything McCall said is what’s needed so what’s the point of all this verbal diarrhoea
     
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  3. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    Look the season is over in terms of getting in to the play offs.

    You can't let Doyle and Vaughan go to replace with Novak and Guthrie... that's madness!

    The squad is too big but it all points that as a club we have no long term planning. We have no identity on or off the pitch!

    Players like Reeves will leave but players like AOC will stay.

    If we seen signing the likes of Guthrie then yes we can have a slow squad but it will lack quality.

    From now until the end of season Stuart has to play the likes of Devitt and as you say find a formation that works. If for example we played Reeves, Cooke and Devitt as a midfield 3 I don't think many would complain.

    We need to press teams and go for it! If we lose we lose but the lack of fight, Reeves sideways passing and being weak has Harry on the ball is unacceptable.
     
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  4. BradfordBanter

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    I understand what you're saying that you don't think they will react well to any additional pressure but herein lies the problem, they've not reacted well to any sort of pressure. Some these players are closing in on two seasons without giving any sort of reaction, first to a relegation and then secondly it looks like we aren't having a reaction to completely bottling this season.

    If they can't react to being made redundant then they never will and aren't welcome at City for me.
     
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  5. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    To be fair most of them would get another club.

    The issue is the club mate not the players... it's a highly unambitious club and I think when a club is like that you need leaders. to drive it forward on the pitch.

    Nobody seems to care and when you have the weakest set of fans in football you don't have too. We went down last season and some fans stayed to clap them off!! Embarrassing!

    So, the players are not hungry but neither is the club.. the players collect their wage and don't care but Rupp and Rhodes do the same!

    Can't blame the players... it's deeper than that!
     
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  6. BradfordBanter

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    Sorry Fordy but look at Newports first goal, that's not JR is it? That is just basic football and no matter what work you do in training there has to be a natural instinct to go pick the man up. I was fine with this group when we were not pretty but grinding results out, but we don't even look like we have that sort of resilience in us anymore.
     
  7. Fordy117

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    You're 100% right it is basic football but how many times have we seen basic mistakes. To get rid of basic mistakes you have to care!

    Reeves- will move to a div 1 club.
    Akpan - will move to div 1 or 2 club
    Wood - could move to div 1 or championship club
    Vaughan- already at a div 1 club
    AOC - move back to Scotland or another club

    I could go on!

    The problem is the club is ran in a mess. When Edin went the players and I suppose fans were waiting for Rupp & Rhodes to kick the club forward. We held on to Bowyer far too long the got rid on 2 quality forwards for this league.

    McCall comes in and players like AOC can't cope.

    The players are mirroring the club.. no drive or hunger and still waiting... waiting to leave now!
     
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  8. Bronco

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    Got to love you @Fordy117@Fordy117 one minute you say "If for example we played Reeves, Cooke and Devitt as a midfield 3 I don't think many would complain", then say Reeves sideways passing, isn't that a contradiction ?
    Ha ha ha.
     
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  9. Faithful Bantam

    Faithful Bantam Squad Player

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    Bollocks to the lot that are there. They're not good enough. Plan for next season, now. Because we're a fair way from being good enough.

    I'm behind every word hes said. Quality over quantity.
     
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  10. Ricky

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    Wood will only go for a reasonable fee and tbh think the club will offer a new deal over the summer.
     
  11. BenjaminBCFCFan

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    Seems like a lot of "I want this, I want that" in regards to team and player quality, but no research, suggestions or proper reasoning behind anything. Calling players crap won't do anything if theres no meaningful discussion.

    A lot of hatred revolving around Novak and Guthrie, so who do you suppose would look a good fit? What style of play has Stuart favoured in the past? Stay positive and give constructive feedback so in the odd case that someone with power actually does read this forum, they don't just see "This guys shit, this guys shit" and see things that could give them leads, ideas and confidence that they need to sort out the situation right now.
     
  12. Rogered Tart

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    I'm not sure why people keep dodging the truth. We're going backwards and McCall knows this. It takes time to implement your plans and then a willing chairman and CEO to back that plan. Pains me to say it but if it means I can see forward progress then this season can do one. It's clear what we need, it's not necessarily a full clear out. Just a plan for now that sees decent players fitting a system. For example the Wembley playoff team under McCall, wouldn't say it was the best set of individuals. But they all knew their role (well at least until McCall went all worry about the opposition), we had the quality general in Cullen and the quality outlet of Marshall. Would anyone seriously say a back four of Mezza, NKP, Vince and the character would have been good enough individually? Well it certainly worked, we played some great footy that season. So let's not be silly looking years down the line. Plan now. Get rid of the weaknesses, less shite and touch more quality.
     
  13. Rogered Tart

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    Wood played in the Wembley play off system way would have been great to watch.
     
  14. Fordy117

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    Ha ha love you too mate.

    No, as Reeves plays better on a 3 and side ways passing can be a little more acceptable.
     
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  15. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    If they can’t react to being made redundant then they never will and aren’t welcome at Morrison’s for me.

    How ridiculous does that now sound!
     
  16. shoatsy

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    I agree with what McCall has said
     
  17. BenjaminBCFCFan

    BenjaminBCFCFan Youngster

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    Redundancy at Morrisons and a Football Team are very two different things, I think you know this and are just being smart.
     
  18. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    Can see haven’t been on here very long you haven’t caught the virus yet
     
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  19. BenjaminBCFCFan

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    The virus of... negativity, I'm guessing?
     
  20. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    Could you really go as well. The whites await you
     
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