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  1. Stafford Bantam

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    I think going into this season is much more of an unknown than recent seasons and, for better or for worse, Edin's model is beginning to take shape.

    Strangely, I think I'm looking forward to this season more than the last couple. Its not that I expect us to do as well as the season before last or start as well as last season, but more because this is somewhat of a journey into the unknown and seeing what this mix of experience and promising young players can produce.

    And for the record, I'm neither pro or anti Edin. I like some things he's done and dislike others. However, I do think his model can work, especially if those appointed are allowed to get on with it.

    To the journey.
     
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  2. Ricc

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    It's hard to say for sure that we're stronger than last season, because so many of the new faces are unknown quantities.

    on Paper, Riley looks good - but we don't actually know how he's going to fare in League 1 football. same with Connor Wood, and Sherwin Seedorf.
    Isherwood is here but you would imagine for the development squad, and again, we don't know if he's actually any good.

    Doubts remain over just how effective Jake Reeves is - and we don't know if the Josh Wright we're getting is the Gillingham one or the Southend version.

    McGowan looked good - but he did only play three games.
     
  3. Park bantam

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    I will answer we have Reeves and McGowan back for a start we have what many would say a slight upgrade on Doyle. I think McMahon is a miss but Riley seems to be well regarded we have two left backs competing. Centre half as well as NKP and Kilgallon we now have McGowan OCconnor and Isherwood great competition and with Reeves Wright Vincelot and Akipan we already look stronger with probably more to come. Up front Jones is now available which strengthens there. Robinson has had one years experience and Gibson was looking good towards the end of last season and Seedorf who Bronco was told looks a great prospect So more to come but looking stronger already
     
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  4. cjunluck

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    Because I don't share you sense of optimism? You're a bit of a child aren't you.
     
  5. bantamdave41

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    May I ask , how are you so sure it's so stronger than last year?
     
  6. Sergio Pinto III

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    I hope you are one of the fans that didn't renew.
     
  7. BoingBoing

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    Oh look another happy clapping thread. Nobody can put their hand on their heart and categorically state we are stronger (or weaker for that matter). Once the boys have been playing together for a while (at least 10games), we will have a better idea.

    As you know, I don’t buy into the shizzle that playerA must be good because he played for a Premier League youth team, or the second team of a German side etc. They are unproven at this level and no amount of bigging them up prior to them playing is going to change my view.

    We have made a few good signings too, but stronger (definitely), I’m not convinced.....yet!
     
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  8. loz

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    until the season's a few games in, I won't know if the squad is weaker or as naff as last year. I Don't know how the younger lads will perform but am hopeful. Certainly, our last 3 signings look impressive. If all are pulling in the same direction, that will be an improvement.
     
  9. River_City_Bantam

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    Agree with all parts of your first sentence; get the youth/experience mix right, add suitable coaching, and you can end up with the 84/5 side leading up to the 87/8 one. I would be very happy to have a repeat of the footballing experiences of those years, obviously with promotion rather than playoff loss at the end of it. I do wonder though if one or two more grizzled vets in the squad would be helpful -- a Warnock or two, for example -- to pass on the tricks of the trade.

    I have moved over to more the anti-Edin side, but a fair amount of that is due to the way things have been done, and the disconnect between public statements and subsequent acts. Improving the infrastructure and what over here would be called the "fan experience" is good; being fiscally responsible is good; making the organisation more professional throughout is good. Indeed the model can work; as I posted in another thread some time ago, the structure Edin seems to be going for is very familiar to anyone who knows North American professional sports. It is however vital to get a good person in as general manager/director of football and, as you say, let them get on with the job; it will be a rare occasion when the owner is suitably qualified for this position. This is the problematic bit of our version of this model.

    To the journey! (Now where's that 'beer' icon?)

    RCB
     
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  10. Tolly856

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    Don't know what the second sentence means but I'll just file it under despicable and assume you are inciting hatred.
     
  11. River_City_Bantam

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    Agreed; I would expect an owner to be involved, but as @StaffordBantam@StaffordBantam implies above, I would also want that owner to stay on the right side of the involved/interfering line. For example, determining a "house" playing style -- tight defensive, free-flowing attacking, wing-play, etc. -- and then hiring suitable staff to deliver that style would for me be on the right side of that line, telling the coaches which players to play, "springing" players on them, insisting on specific tactics in certain situations, and so on, would not. A div. 3 side such as ourselves is a relatively small and simple organisation, but there is still enough else for an owner to look after -- let the specialists do their jobs.

    RCB
     
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  12. Captain Black Adder

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    Got to love pre-season optimism it is a truely wonderous thing.
     
  13. Sergio Pinto III

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    Im very laid back over Mr Rahics approach on all things BCAFC. Yet to get my knickers in a twist like others, and especially you.
     
  14. cjunluck

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    Squads just as naff as last season
     
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  15. RonnieBrown

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    FWIW ..................

    McGowan
    An injury free Reeves, Jones and a 'new found' McCartan could well prove to be seen as four 'new signings', alone ;)
     
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  16. loz

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    Think we are now beginning to look like a squad. Last year, we had a good team but as January on showed, a light squad.
     
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  17. Botswana Bantam

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    Can't see how we'll miss McMahon. He's experienced and on his day can be positive but over the long haul of a season he has ups and downs - strong, physical defense versus being too slow and outpaced, great assists at the start of the season versus poor quality in the second half, etc etc - I know some will say 'he's a league one player and that's what league one players do' but for me it just felt like the right time for him to go. Good luck to him but we had to move on.
     
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  18. Stafford Bantam

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    Its a fine line between involved and interfering.
     
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  19. Tolly856

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    No, but you love overreacting. Like real men do.
     
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  20. NorthernMonkey

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    You got the first letter right.
     
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