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Soft tissue injuries

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by BantamJ, Sep 14, 2024.

  1. BantamJ

    BantamJ Fringe Player

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    Same season same re occurrence of these soft issue injuries hamstrings etc. Raises its ugly head every season and we all have the lively debate over training facilities. But honestly what is the answer as we are hampered every year?

    Sharpe your head of football get a full root and branch as to why we seem to be hampered every year.

    My thoughts are the facilities we use and the medical staff competence which we have tried to address admittedly this season.

    Read Rupps open letter in 2018 he references key injuries, last season he references injuries. This is systematic of this club on a major scale it needs a review.
     
  2. DimitriPayet

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    Didn't we boot out the bigger-built lad in the summer because Alexander wanted fitness to improve?
     
  3. BantamJ

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    He did and he ended up at Carlise.

    it’s deeper than that for me it’s got to be structural of our training set up, whether it’s pitch texture or dimensions, quality of work completed in training, quality of nutrition by the club. It’s something as we are hurt so badly every year.

    This should be top of Sharpes list understand he’s head of football.
     
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  4. Keefly Bantam

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    Do we know what Sarcevic's injury is? Byrne said he thought he had cramp. Kelly went over on his ankle and was stood on as well at the same moment. Baldwin injured in a tackle.

    Are they classed as soft tissue injuries because if they are then all clubs have them-injured players it's commonplace. Not sure why we think we are immune from them. Just unlucky today to lose two more to injury-assuming Byrne has done his hammy as was speculated on the radio.
     
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  5. DimitriPayet

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    The problem is that these players, aside from Sarcevic, are arguably not good enough anyway, but they're our first-choice defenders and are out injured
     
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  6. BantamJ

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    Byrne hamstring or at least early thoughts.
    Baldwin was a tear I believe (in game admittedly)
    Johnson again as I understand tissue/strain related and (he did do the early preseason fitness stuff at the training ground)
     
  7. Jordan

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    Soft tissue?.... asda shades works alright for my household :thumbup:
     
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  8. AngryGaz

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    Strange that Parky and co could cope with the facilties back in thecgood old days ..........maybe its down to luck or signing players that are injury prone.

    Not a clue but amazes me that somehow the training facilties are an issue but werent before the fookwit brothers got hold of the clubb
     
  9. Storck

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    I will ask the same question I ask everytime this comes up and I haven't previously had a response.

    Do we get more of this type of injury than other teams in our division, or do we just know about them becuase they are in our club?

    I don't know either way but to those that think it is a massive issue that effects us and we need to change things etc is it just us?
     
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  10. Birky Bantam

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    Sarcevic is out with a knee injury picked up on the opening day and thought it wasn't too bad then made it worse in the Salford game but they've not said what type of knee injury it is.
    I'd be very worried if Byrne had cramp after 20 minutes.

    It would be interesting to see what injuries are like with other teams Alexander has managed as it seemed to be a very physically demanding pre-season where he said that he deliberately went into the early matches with the players fatigued.
     
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  11. Storck

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    Didn't we just sign loan players to cover injuries back then? but with the change to the loan rules etc we can't now?
     
  12. AngryGaz

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    Can you ever recall a time when we had mass injuries ?????
    The odd one maybe but not like it is now ........maybe the whole mentality of that team was simply difderent to this one now.
     
  13. bailiff bridge bantam

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    No way Byrne had cramp.
    I’m no expert (my wife is) but I suspect a 31 year old professional footballer knows the difference after 20 minutes of a game between cramp and a hamstring issue.

    And if he did have cramp after 20 minutes then that’s a lot more serious issue than a soft tissue strain/tear.
     
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  14. Birky Bantam

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    To me is sounds like a manager putting the blame on the player a bit. Byrne might have said it was cramp but for a manager as experienced as Alexander that should raise a few alarm bells in his head that something isn't right and it can only be one of 3 things:
    • Byrne is deliberately lying as he wants to stay on
    • Bryne doesn't realise what it is and genuinely thinks it could be cramp
    • It is cramp and there is something majorly wrong with Byrne's fitness
    whichever it is it's on Alexander for not making the sub straight away or at least telling Walker to kick the ball out when he got the ball in his hands after Byrne came back on.
     
  15. BantamJ

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    Think your on to something with mentality… think plays apart along with our set up. It has to be our set up.
     
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    It's not just at City where this is an issue, Man Utd are having similar issues as are a number of other clubs.

    I do think the likes of Pep are a contributing factor, you see League 2 teams and even those below passing out from the back and pressing which is actually more demanding and then that means they training load has to go up so they are in the right condition to do that. And then when you have the football calendar getting more compressed so that even if it doesn't see the likes of your players playing that much more it can still have an impact because with extended confederation international tournaments and extended world cups are making it more likely some League 2 players may have to miss part of pre-season or with qualifying or things like the Nations league they might have to fly off or there is more chance your match is called off as the opponent has too many call-ups.

    Even with Pep himself his Bayern team struggled with these kinds of injuries, Barcas and City have less so (although that may be because Bayern didn't let him bring his medical team full of doctors who have been caught up in PED controversies with him while Barca and City did)
     
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    Newcastle who are playing right now have Botman and Lascelles out with injuries
     
  18. Silverbantam

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    I think it’s the style of play causing these injuries, high energy and high pressing.
     
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    Love it :joy: , don't let her see your post.
     
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    Yet we see tennis players sometimes on court regularly up to couple of hours or more on court running twisting turning stopping sharply then sprinting and they don't get any rest in a two man sport, I accept they don't play competitive tennis week in week out like footballers but you see the same men and women winning tournaments, do they train differently and if so could we learnt from their training regime.
     
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