Rahic Interview

Why wouldn't the agent be happy? They're there to get the best deal for their client not necessarily the highest figure.

They're trying to sell it to the players on the overall package of the opportunity. Not just the highest wages and feel they can do that most effectively face to face. Seems sensible and I didn't actually think it was unusual.

The players can choose to chase the money somewhere else if that's what's important to them. It's not like they're completely cutting the agent out of the loop or refusing to deal with them.

 

They wouldn't. If the figures quoted are closer together through and there are other factors involved then it might not be quite as simple.

Do you honestly think that players always go for the higher wages even if the difference is negligible?

I'm sure I've heard players say they've turned down more money to come here rather than go to other clubs before.

 

I'm not disputing that. Surely there has to be a chance of an agreement before we speak to the player though? Let's say there's a few £hundred in it. If we're poles apart what's the point.

 

Where have said that wouldn't be the case though? Surely it's common sense from both sides to only meet with players you have a chance of signing?

 

If the difference is negligible i'd expect the agent to ask the club to match the other clubs offer. There are reasons why a player would take a smaller salary, Bostwick moving from Peterborough to Lincoln an example because the move was near to his family. But the general rule of thumb is that players go for financial security first and foremost. Look at McCardle, had a chance to play in front 19,000 of the bantams family but chose the longer deal with a better wage. Money is king, always will be.

 

I really dont get this blame it on the last owners bit, they either did "due diligence" themselves or paid a professional to do it, they should have picked up from that what they would need to do certain aspects of the upkeep of the pitch, general upkeep to the stadium, so no they will not get praise for not understanding their legal obligations/responsibilities of the upkeep of Valley Parade, as far as the team is concerned we have gone backwards, we still have no manager/head coach, and may not have for a while according to Edin "as they need to get this one right" I believe the quote was, we are relying on the next man being happy that a previous caretaker manager has helped draw up the retained list and certain players have been identified without his input, and we are 6/7 weeks away from pre-season training.
So until I see some positives no they get very little credit from me, sorry to disappoint.

 

I'm not disrupting cash isn't important but it's not the only factor. You just named another one in terms of contract length. Chances of success will be another one and there will be plenty more.

I'm 100% sure that we've had players come here and turn down bigger offers before. We've probably lost out on players for other reasons but money as well.

 

I would suggest if a player is paying an agent he would want him to negotiate for him, be that Pogba or McCartan, if as your suggesting the agent takes a back seat whast the point of him getting his % if the player does the deal, if Edin believes he can negotiate without agents being present it's even more worrying the man is clearly out of his depth, of course that's only IMO.

 

Yes I think I might getting the situation now .

 

Yet Edin clearly states in the video if we were in the Championship my phone would never be still with agents ringing me, what a strange comment from a guy who says he would prefer to deal direct with the player.

 

Chances of success usually go hand in hand with a club speculating with big wage offers. I accept that doesn't always work, Bury being an example, but they are the classic example of a basket case club where no amount of money would make success. But lets look at it with a bit of logic. Bradford go for a player and offer x as a wage. Another club also wants that player and offers more than x. I used the McCardle scenario because its the most usual scenario in this case. Colin Doyle will have the same to deal with, Bradford have made him an offer, he then has to weigh up whether its worth uprooting his settled family for a job elsewhere. All depends on how much Bradford value the player against the other clubs valuation. But i guarantee in the vast majority of contracts they either stay or move because of the money and nothing else.

 

He's still negotiating. The player is making the decision though, I would have thought that's always the way?

The agents are working for the players not the other way around.

 

Weird that more players don't go play in China or Russia then I suppose if they're only looking at the cash.

Just in terms of the success and wages correlation I agree overall. It won't follow through in every case though.

Sunderland will have a massive wageroll next year but it's still possible that Scunthorpe for example would be willing to offer an individual player more because they value him higher. The chance of Sunderland being successful overall is still greater though as is the prospect of that player being promoted to the Championship.

 

So if the player ultimately makes the final decision why pay an agent for his negotiating skills, it would be a great idea I'm sure club chairman wish they could deal with player directly but I would suggest they are very far and few if any, could anyone fellow poster name a player who does not have an agent and makes his own deals, you only have to go back to the Carbone days he had a very good salary £40,000 a week but his perks were fantastic, home in Adle, private schooling for his children, flights both ways for his family, it's not all about the players salary.

 

China and Russia are not interested in league 1 shitkickers.

 

Because they're specialists in negotiating terms, are aware of what the market is and provide those skills.

If a player wants to play for a London club, a club with a high profile, a certain structure, style of play, manager type, etc, etc. Then the decision is still theirs. They're not slaves to the agents!

 

So that would suggest that if an agent as he quoted, phoned him he was doing so on behalf of the player he represented ?.

 

I wasn't talking just about league 1 players, just about players chasing cash with no thought to any other factor.