Radio 5 show yesterday-head coaches are the way to go

But to what lower level? I can see that a PL coach cannot do every managerial task, but one at a Division three outfit? I still see only Brentford (and Crewe if you accept enhanced facilities as your only aim) as the only clubs succeeding from a lower level, and Brentford had a huge ownership advantage.

 

Villains obviously.. it's a model that will never work anywhere ever..

 

As I keep saying, it isn’t the fact that we are looking to introduce a Head Coach. For me, it’s the responsibilities given to him. If all he’s expected to do is coach the players and pick the teams, then this is DIFFERENT to what the radio programme was suggesting.

However, if he is to be involved in the recruitment and trusted to provide a view on players, then fair enough.

 

I get the concept, what worries me is that our owners appear to think the coach is the last piece of the jigsaw. I also wonder how many clubs have the owner/Chairman acting as the director of football.
Get the right people in place and I’m sure it can work. The game is really about players more than managers or coaches, so recruitment is the key. When Pep was asked about critics saying they won the league because they recruited the best players, his reply was yes absolutely. The coach brings out the best in players but recruitment is the key. Better players cost more money so recruitment becomes even harder. Edin thinks he has the skills. Let’s hope so.

 

If we are to believe what Rahic and Abbott have been telling us - on more than one occasion - then it is clear that the head coach will also have a role to play in player recruitment.

 

It’s not a bad model, but you need a decent Head of or Director of Football to make it work.

 

Don't have a problem with this newfangled model.

Do think that the 'Head of Football' position should have some previous experience and proven ability though.

Would any other multi million pound business employ someone in that capacity that had never done the job, or even worked within that industry before?

 

To echo what @abbomf said, how far down the leagues do you go before it's just not feasible? We're a lower league club not a multi-national.

If we can hire the right people and delegate accordingly we may have a shot. But that's still a long road.

 

Yes a decent head is required but who is currently accountable for the success or lack of it - for the players recruited - as it is - Mr Rahic as head of recruitment and joint owner is not?
He may have to explain to Mr Rupp but he is hardly going to remove himself from the position - if a significant number of signings are a flop.

 

To clarify.............I actually agree with it, a coach being easily dispensable should he not produce results, it's the way to go. But not without a system already in place for him to operate within, and we seem a million miles from that. A manager or a coach, fine, but not this half baked nonsense, half way through June and a journeyman and 2 kids arrived....and no coach anyway.

 

The model makes sense, given the short shelf life of 'head coaches'.

As with all management structures, they succeed or fail largely in HOW they're implemented.

It needs a quality DOF and appropriate financing to build a good team.

 

And failure to apply the last two properly is the reason most have been critical of Edin and the system

 

I’ve not heard Rahic saying this. Abbott has, admittedly, but the longer it takes to recruit a HC, the less input he is having on ‘his’ squad

 

It was actually a repeat of a programme from a few ago, and it was a psychologist who was talking about the impact of the head coach; some study in Belgium i think it was showed a HC had a 10% impact on the team. It’s down to the players and the setup.

It’s a really interesting listen and I think is the way clubs should be heading and is the way we’re heading.

You can’t have managers spending lots of money when they don’t last long (those sacked on the EFL last season had lasted on average 1.18 years), so the Head Coach way is the future of football.

 

Link to the programme is:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p069jltw

The whole podcast is great, but the psychologist from 29:50 to 37:05 is very apt for us & especially from 35:50.

 

Yes, pretty much so, abbomf. It's not a poor model, but any weakness in the overall structure and implementation of the strategy, will give people the wrong message in terms of performance and any consequent success, or failure.

 

Didn't Southampton and Swansea have similar set-ups too?