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Pricing structure for the future.

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rogered Tart, Sep 1, 2020.

  1. Rogered Tart

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    An opinion of mine, like to see what others think.

    Season ticket prices

    League 2 £150
    League 1 £200
    Championship £250
    Premiership £300

    Not really interested in the 'we won't ever get there' scenario. Or anything about Covid. I already realise that. More about what people think should be a pricing structure dependant on success and the division we are in.
     
  2. WilsdenBantam

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    Happily pay £300 in championship and £400 in PL, but like the idea.
     
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  3. Andy10

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    I’d happily pay £50 more in each of the divisions if I knew where the money was going or pre salary cap. Not too sure now, genuinely don’t trust those at the top to reinvest the spare in infrastructure/scouting etc.
     
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  4. How

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    I always look at it at a game by game basis. 23 home games in this league so 230 would be fair. That’s a tenner a game. Make it cheaper 8 quid a game and call it 185. Still brilliant value.
    The day has gone to increase it currently. I would run to this hills with this 150 deal and take every season ticket holder we can currently with the covid situation and we don’t know the jobs market come October so take the 150 as it is now and run with it. Get that money into the club even though it’s too cheap really.

    Then we increase as we move up the leagues yes, but try reward existing season ticket holders where possible. Open a special window and freeze prices for them. Gets money in early and keeps that “bantams family” mantra garbage going.
    Everyone else gets to come in at 200 quid when that’s shut because you are now playing league one football and we need to pay for it.
    The following season you do the same, even if we don’t get promotion. You buy it at your cureent price. 150 if it was 150 or 200 if your bought at 200 in our special window and then once that’s done we go up to 225 because we need a bigger budget for our promotion push. Market it well people will buy it.

    Let’s say if we ever get to prem you can reward long term fans again anyway as the money is astronomical. Maybe not quite Edins 1 quid tickets but can certainly give something back for supporting the club?
     
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  5. JonButterfield

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    We definitely need to put something in place to fund a highly professional off pitch team.
     
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  6. 1975citygent

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    My Gran always used to say "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit" but I think she would be with you on that one.
     
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  7. donhutchinsaffro

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    If a salary cap had been in for 10 years I wonder were all the teams would have ended up?
     
  8. Storck

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    I think as we go up we would need to look at differential pricing depending on seat location, probably start as soon as possible so it wasn’t a shock
     
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  9. Birky Bantam

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    I'd say they are very fair prices, only thing I'd add is maybe they are the prices if you renew and for new buyers add an extra £25 on top of each of the prices to reward those that are loyal and back the club early on especially in league 1 & 2 but at the same time being good value to new season ticket holders.
     
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  10. Idlebantam

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    £250 will be a bargain in 2040 when we reach the Championship!.

    Seriously though, good idea
     
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  11. Interested Bystander

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    L2 & L1 fair enough, but Championship for £250, really?
     
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  12. Rogered Tart

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    I'm being gentle with them, you've seen how some react if you mention a rise of £20 a season, like their kids will starve.
     
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  13. Interested Bystander

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    25,000 STs at 300 notes a pop wouldn't even scratch the surface
     
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  14. Rogered Tart

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    The lowest championship budgets i can remember were the likes of Barnsley, i think it was around £8 million. Wycombe i would guess would be the lowest budget this season. be interesting to see what they come in at.
     
  15. Tennesseebantam

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    50 quid on league 2 and 1, 100 quid on other 2. Still cheap at those prices and might find asset aquisition.
     
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  16. Interested Bystander

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    Wages 2017/2018 Championship
    Burton (£10m), Barnsley (£11m), Millwall (£13m), Preston (£15m), Brentford (£17m), Ipswich (£19m) and Sheffield United (£19m)
     
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  17. Rogered Tart

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    3 choices if we ever got there

    1. Ticket prices go up toward £350 mark
    2. Club has to push the boat out
    3. We go in way cheaper than Burton

    I suspect it would be a bit of all three.
     
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  18. Park bantam

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    I see no reason to raise prices whilst we are in league one or two. I think £225 for the championship would be fair and I would keep it the same for the first season in the premiership for people who were renewing
     
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  19. Rogered Tart

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    As @Interested Bystander@Interested Bystander posted, Burtons wage bill was £10 million. Even 20,000 tickets at £225 a pop only brings in £4.5 million. Darragh MacAnthony said today they have to find around £4 million in transfer fees to break even in league 1. So if we did ever get to the championship what would be a workable budget and how much of the shortfall does Rupp/a.n.other want to make up? You ain't playing with a competitve squad in the championship on anything below 8 to 10 million and thats will more than likely see you relegated. Fans have to understand if you want to compete even with the bottom feeders in the championship then prices will have to go more than £225.
     
  20. Dennis

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    Don't be so ridiculous! The current proposal (and not yet agreed) is for a salary cap of at least £18m in the Championship. Compared to our current break even salary budget of circa £2m, that's a £16m gap to be closed just in the playing budget (and much more if the salary cap proposals aren't agreed). Being generous, doubling the current ticket prices (to £300 for adults rather than your £225) would bring in around another £2m; increasing the size of the crowd by 50% would bring in another £2mill; increasing our income from solidarity payments and TV rights brings in another £5mill. Even if none of our costs increase (which they will do in the Championship) still leaves a gap of £7mil+ to be filled. A little might might come from extra merchandising etc but there remains a gap of at least £5mill to be filled. Most other Championship clubs' owners bankroll that gap (and the rest at most clubs) each year but I can't imagine Rupp doing that.

    Where do you think the extra money would come from even if ticket prices doubled or are you expecting Rupp or another owner to subsidise the club or the club to take on a load of debt just to meet its day-to-day costs?
     
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